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re: Remember when???? LSU Baseball Edition

Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:09 am to
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:09 am to
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Wasn't it just last year we basically had the same success down the stretch only to lose at home in the super.


In fairness we did lose the super to the national champions last year.

quote:

This teams goal is national championship.


Every teams goal is the national championship.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9309 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:10 am to
Most of these were true at the times that they were said. I would bet at least 90% of this fanbase knew that this was headed into a bad situation and they were. Low and behold, changes were made, bringing Hess to the bullpen, letting Pap go back switch or where he feels more comfortable, replaced some players that weren't getting it done, and Watson has come into his own.

Now the bottom of the lineup is hitting which is taking pressure off of the top. I think you will start to see the top come back into its own as well. This all takes the pressure off of the pitchers.

So I don't think people were wrong to believe these negetive ideas but if they gave up on the Tigers, well sucks for them. I know I hadn't given up but I was surely questioning the decisions early on like most. GT

The fire PM crap is dumb but he does make you question him sometimes. I know I have
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 8:17 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24711 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:13 am to
The goal every single year should be to make it to a Super Regional. Anything beyond that is asking too much. You make it to a Super Regional, and you are playing just a 3 game series against a very good opponent. Literally anything can happen.

If we were playing a 7 game series in Super's then sure, you can say that it's a bust not making it to Omaha.

To say that a team must win a national championship or it's a bust is just idiotic. There are probably 15-20 teams who could win a national championship each year if they catch the right breaks in college baseball.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3075 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:14 am to
You can't help clueless people. How many times do we have to see a Mainieri team get hot late in the year and go on a run? Give him credit, but this is nothing new. I tend to think they get hot a little too early, but you can't argue with his SEC success.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60691 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:15 am to
I remember, and I said some of them. Not the PM part, but we suffered from a terrible lack of run production. With Lange and Poche struggling mid season we weren't a great team.

I am still unsure if this new team is the norm. They are looking to have found a spark that may last.

Either way I watch and pull for em every game
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19658 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:16 am to
Remember when yesterday you thought we had to beat Kentucky to earn a national seed?





Just messing with you buddy
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3075 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:16 am to
I would argue there are more than 15-20 capable of winning it all. Coastal Carolina is a great example of just how many college baseball teams can win a national title. That isn't true in football or basketball.
Posted by fleurdeleap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2010
94 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24711 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:21 am to
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Remember when yesterday you thought we had to beat Kentucky to earn a national seed?


I did not say that if we lost to Kentucky we wouldn't get a national seed. I just said I was worried that if Kentucky earned themselves a spot, and the committee felt obligated to put a second west coast team, that somebody had to get left out. That's why I wouldn't use the work "lock" for LSU and a few other teams.

Good thing for us, we should not have to find out.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24711 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:21 am to
quote:

I would argue there are more than 15-20 capable of winning it all. Coastal Carolina is a great example of just how many college baseball teams can win a national title. That isn't true in football or basketball.


I agree.
Posted by irnfan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1442 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:28 am to
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No fan base eats its own like the rant.
FIFY

Do not equate the general fan base with this board. LSU has a great fan base. We travel and support our teams. The vocal few on this site are a tiny minority of our fans.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:41 am to
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What does anything I said have to do with the CWS?

If we don't make it to Omaha does it make all of those things hold true again??


Just saying, it's invariably going to get thrown back in your face if we dont make it, because the season will be considered a disappointment on here.
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:42 am to
Hahahahhahaha hahahaha hahahahah u ppl are so dumb.... wait till we get to Omaha plz
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
24711 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:49 am to
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Just saying, it's invariably going to get thrown back in your face if we dont make it, because the season will be considered a disappointment on here.


There is always going to be that crowd no matter what, unless we win a national championship.

If we lose in the Super, they will say we suck because we can't make it to Omaha.

If we lose in Omaha they will say we suck because we didn't win it all.

Only one thing can please certain fans...and that's only temporary, because next season they will be right back on the train after the first midweek loss.

21 SEC wins
SEC Championship
40+ win season
National Seed

That's a success no matter what in my book. Make a super and anything extra is lagniappe.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71531 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

There is always going to be that crowd no matter what, unless we win a national championship.

If we lose in the Super, they will say we suck because we can't make it to Omaha.

If we lose in Omaha they will say we suck because we didn't win it all.

Only one thing can please certain fans...and that's only temporary, because next season they will be right back on the train after the first midweek loss.

21 SEC wins
SEC Championship
40+ win season
National Seed

That's a success no matter what in my book. Make a super and anything extra is lagniappe.


Cant say I really agree with your assessment. The goal of our teams is to make it to Omaha and win games there. Not win SEC titles, not win SEC tournament titles, not win 40+ games. Now, we obviously will always have people who are disappointed if we dont win it all, that's unrealistic, but we also have 1 win in Omaha the last 7 years (only making it twice). That's what makes people frustrated and rightfully so, that's kind of uncharted territory for us (to go so long without making noise in Omaha).

With a really veteran talented team like this year's, people just want to see us achieve where we've been lacking recently, and I dont blame them one bit for getting frustrated if we dont. It's nice to win SEC titles and regional games, but what really matters comes after that.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2209 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:37 am to
I think you may have that wrong, the season starts out with a goal of winning the conference. People, fans, gave up on the team before they could ever reach that goal. The "fans" expect a national championship, but the goals of the team, conference first.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4912 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:50 am to
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i'll bet that EVERY ONE OF THOSE "PEOPLE HERE" ARE FINE WITH YOU MAKING YOUR "BETTER THAN THOU" BOASTS. you see, they are LSU fans too and they were merely making comments on what they saw out of this team during the regular season ebb and flow of play.


The problem is, they didn't see the ebb and flow of the game. They were reactionary and when the team wasn't playing well they went straight to "FIRE CPM", he doesn't now anything about baseball, bench Pap, starting Watson as a freshman is stupid, blah blah blah. The fact of the matter is CPM was just as good a coach a month ago when we were losing as he is now that we're winning.

It must be understood in sports, especially in baseball, that there are a lot of ebbs and flows and a great deal of small things can make a big difference and sometime you can't control all of the small things. You must be patient and steady. Not reactionary.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79230 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:55 am to
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What does anything I said have to do with the CWS?

If we don't make it to Omaha does it make all of those things hold true again??



because its baseball and everything that has happened good can go to shite just as quick and we could not make it out of our own regional sitting at the house watching the supers and CWS and all those topics will come right back...
Posted by Run DMC
somewhere in Louisiana it's tricky
Member since Jan 2007
6207 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 12:29 pm to
None of the things you mention change the fact that CPM is terrible at leaving pitchers in a batter or two too long when it is obvious to the rest of mankind that the kid is struggling.

I will gladly eat crow. The team somehow turned it around. But half way through the season it wasn't looking good at all. Let's all just hope we make it to Omaha and have a good outing and Mainieri doesn't choke again.
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