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re: Remember this BS from the last time we played uc-irvine.....

Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
2080 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:51 pm to
you for not thinking LeMahieu could have kept that circus from starting by not leaving the base.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79238 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:56 pm to
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you for not thinking LeMahieu could have kept that circus from starting by not leaving the base.


again you are just guessing they would NOT have attempted it...no one, not even you, can say for 100% certainty they would not have attempted it...

again the ump WAS NOT LOOKING AT THE PLAY so LeMahieu could have been on the bag the whole time and the UCI player could have pulled the same act that he did...again...just like you...that is a guess...

bottom line facts are...the ump broke the cardinal rule of umpiring...making a call he did not see...

everything is just guessing on each persons part...
Posted by GT
BR
Member since Dec 2003
917 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:05 pm to
my sons team was playing in a tournament that weekend and we had to play an Anteater team 2 or three times in the tournament. I though it was odd for a local team go by the anteaters!
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 3:07 pm
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2928 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:10 pm to
I don’t want to dispute the fact that the umpire blew the call. But, the reference to the runner should have not been off the base if the pitcher is off the mound is also valid. That is because the defensive team is not allowed to pull a hidden ball trick if the pitcher is on the pitcher’s mound. I’m not sure that point has been picked up by some.
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
2080 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:15 pm to
The pitcher can't even be on the dirt without the ball. They teach you back when you're 7 years old that you shouldn't leave the base until the pitcher gets on the rubber, much less the dirt.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2928 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:18 pm to
Agreed

Mound = dirt
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:20 pm to
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he umpire needs to make calls HE ACTUALLY SEES


ah, if life were only fair.

In my personal experience in basketball, covering an 'all american', I blocked a shot in the lane, and got called for a foul after the big time guy yelled. I had all ball.

Later in same game, I picked him up in the open court and knocked the ball onto his leg, and then it went out of bounds.
Same thing. yelled, and I got called for a foul by the ump who had no view of the play.

I DO NOT EXPECT UMPS TO HAVE THE COMMON COURTESY TO CALL ONLY WHAT THEY SEE.

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79238 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

But, the reference to the runner should have not been off the base if the pitcher is off the mound is also valid.


yes it is and I never said it wasn't...yes he should have been on the bag but he wasn't...

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That is because the defensive team is not allowed to pull a hidden ball trick if the pitcher is on the pitcher’s mound.


while true its was my contention that we don't know what UCI would have done, if they turn around and see the ump looking in the opposite direction they could have attempted the same play, again that is just a guess...no one knows for sure if they would have still attempted it or not, with LeMahieu on the bag odds or they would not have...

bottom line again is the ump was not looking at the play and UCI player did a selling act to the ump when he turnaround to see the call and the ump bought it...

with the other umps not over-riding the 2nd base umps call we just had to conclude they didn't see the play either...that is all I'm saying...

Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54852 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:28 pm to
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LeMahieu takes away any question if he's paying attention there.



But Jeeves, he got back in time.
Posted by jmschamber
The Former West Florida Republic
Member since Apr 2010
673 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

UCI, were they the ant eaters?
They still are
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
2080 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:35 pm to
I know.

It was an awful call.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54852 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

I know.

It was an awful call.



Yes, it was.

I see your point, but you can't play the game trying to avoid bad calls.
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2928 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:59 pm to
Agreed
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:04 pm to
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If LeMahieu never leaves the bag, Irvine never even tries the play.


Dude, shut up! The second baseman had the ball, that means they are trying the play BEFORE L leaves the bag!

And second, L was paying attention, that's why he was standing on the bag when they tagged him.

Bad calls don't need to have you speculate with bad what if's!
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53925 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:51 pm to
hope we return full throttle against their sorry asses... Run up the score
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
2080 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:59 pm to
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Dude, shut up! The second baseman had the ball, that means they are trying the play BEFORE L leaves the bag!

Of course they were trying the play, dumbass. But I have doubts that the 2nd baseman would have run over and tagged LeMahieu if he was standing on top of the bag.
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And second, L was paying attention, that's why he was standing on the bag when they tagged him.

He wasn't paying attention because he left the base when the pitcher was still standing behind the mound and glances over the last second before the 2nd baseman runs in to tag him. And he had his foot barely back on the corner of the bag. It's not like he was whole seconds ahead of what UC-Irvine was doing.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:13 pm to
He was on the bag genius...laying on it or barely a toe on it...on it is on it!

Your arguement is stupid because it is a video/photo proven fact that the ump was not even looking! So where he was to start the scenario doesn't mean shite. The ump made the call based on reaction by the defense. When he finally looked, L was on the bag.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91436 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:13 pm to
Remember the hidden ball trick?



anteaters are funny
Posted by Jeeves
Member since Apr 2010
2080 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:15 pm to
And UC-Irvine doesn't even make an attempt to tag LeMahieu if he doesn't ever leave the bag.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133582 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 5:24 pm to
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And UC-Irvine doesn't even make an attempt to tag LeMahieu if he doesn't ever leave the bag.
You're making an assumption. I assume they would have tried it anyway and then sell it to the ump. We'll never know is the real answer.
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