re: Reality Check: LSU has never been an elite SEC program

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No shite, Sherlock.

Since the inception of the SECCG, Florida and Bama have clearly been the best teams in the SEC.

And going forward another 20 years, I won't be surprised if Bama and Florida continue to dominate. Because that's what elite teams do.

You homers keep saying "we should be this" or "we could be that" and while I might agree that we could be, we never have been. We've never stayed at that level for more than a year or two.

The reason LSU and Auburn have such a highly competitive game every year is because LSU and Auburn are almost mirror images of each other. Both of want to be better than Bama, just as much as the Red Sox want to be better than the Yankees. We aren't.

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Wow, man. You've simple stated the obvious. In fact, there was a whole SI.com article about this recently. But that doesn't mean that there can't be another "elite" team. It's pretty obvious that LSU has a good program, most any outsider would tell you that. You want to call it "elite" or not, that is simply a label.

Somehow, because Florida and Bama have had the most success so far - LSU can't breakthrough (or continue to do so). Is that your point?

120 FBS teams. LSU is top 15 all-time in wins. I'm good with that.

I just really cant understand your reasoning. We are tied for the most BCS National championships with florida, we also have the same amount of national titles as florida overall. If you want to look historically at the SEC then there is only one elite team, Alabama. If you want to look as SEC football this decade its
#1 LSU (4 BCS wins, 2 national titles
#2 Florida (3 BCS wins, 2 national titles
#3 Alabama (1 BCS win(2 appearances), 1 National title)

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You know what Oklahoma, Ohio State and Alabama have...
...media would agree.

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You didn't answer my question. Is it your opinion that OU & OSU are currently more elite than Alabama and Florida?

This guy is a typical Louisianian. Filled with self-loathing, unable to enjoy a modicum of success. Why so much hate?

Do yourself a favor, seek professional help.

The "we aint, we can't, we won't" mentality is typical loser BS. Do us all a favor and cut ties to this non-elite program. We'd be better off without you.

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I define elite as being highly competitive over a decade or more.

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SO what you are saying is that LSU has been elite over the last decade.....

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I don't believe there is room in the SEC for more than two elite teams at a time. I define elite as being highly competitive over a decade or more.

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Dude you are the smartest!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey genius, tell me the story following 2002 because I am pretty sure LSU beat Alabama's arse five years in a row after that. You can call LSU whatever you want, but they beat the crap out of Miami (on and off the football field), Notre Dame, and Georgia Tech in bowl games, beat five top fifteen teams in 2007 (never been done before), won 2 national titles, 3 SEC titles, and had Alabama's number for the better part of the decade. You can figure out what you would like to call that, but I will call it impressive. And to top it off, Texas was taking it to Alabama before Colt was injured. I think if he does not get hurt, Alabama does not have a national title last year.

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Florida, historically, is not elite.

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Ordinarily, I might agree since I prefer the long term historical lens. But Florida has been so dominating over the last two decades that they've earned that label.

I hate Florida more than I hate any SEC school (tied with Ole Miss) but I will admit the reason I hate them is because they were so damn good and dominating for so long.

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I don't believe there is room in the SEC for more than two elite teams at a time.

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This seems arbitrary.

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But I think it will be extremely difficult for LSU or Auburn for that matter to displace Bama and Florida as the top dawgs.

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Well, maybe so. But LSU and Auburn already "displaced" Alabama for almost a decade, ending a couple years ago. And 2 NC in a decade leads a lot of people, "homers" or not, to start using terms like "elite" when talking about a program. Furthermore, it's not like LSU was pathetic prior(see all-time wins), just below Bama who was dominate.

And you keep citing history, but it's also been thought for decades that LSU was a "sleeping giant," essentially a prime candidate to be a powerhouse. And this was pre-Saban. It was inevitable that people in Louisiana and out viewed the Saban years as "awakening" that sleeping giant. And, somehow, you would like LSU fans to apologize for wanting to be elite, when LSU was just in the running for team of the last decade.

I guess I'm gathering that you might not want Miles fired, or something, and I'm not even in the fire Miles camp. That being said, it really isn't much of a jump to call LSU current program "elite" in any sense, and certainly isn't an offense to hope it is "elite."