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re: Rational Speculation: Harris was injured during the Alabama game

Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:20 pm to
Btw, if you watch the game again it appears that he was settling down after a rough first quarter. He made some nice throws to get the td and fg before the half.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:25 pm to
wow! great call!!
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 1:52 am to
Minor hernia? You have just proven your stupidity. A sports hernia requiring surgery is a huge drain on performance. You could have saved yourself some humiliation by doing even a cursory bit of research.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7191 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:42 am to
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Minor hernia? You have just proven your stupidity. A sports hernia requiring surgery is a huge drain on performance. You could have saved yourself some humiliation by doing even a cursory bit of research.
I understand people questioning the OP in November.

It seems kinda silly to question it after 12 PM yesterday.

However, there will ALWAYS be some fans who refuse to accept facts staring them in the face.
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24514 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:02 am to
" there will always be some "fans?" who refuse to accept facts staring them in the face".


Yep. Ignore mode engaged.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:15 am to
No he didn't. What is stupidity is you guys trying to pass off his poor performances due to injury when it was CLEAR that the stage was to big for him from Alabama on...there was no "injury" that caused the extremely poor pass to start the third quarter against bama...completely sealing our fate. I WISH his performance down the stretch was due to injury. It would give me hope he could be the qb we need going into next year. Any rational fan though obviously sees there is a lot more holding him back than injury...
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:36 am to
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During and after the Alabama game, his numbers regressed.


During and after the Alabama game the entire teams numbers regressed. The three game slide this year was simply one of the worst November performances in LSU football history. Without a late fold by King it was bad enough to cost Miles his job.

Don't let the trouncing of TTU in the bowl game cover up the total implosion this team went through in November.

Now we build and learn from it and get better.

Posted by Mr6daveyobrians
Member since Dec 2013
1812 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:38 am to
Are you stupid? Your argument against his injury affecting him is that his injury didn't affect him. It doesn't work like that, you can't support your argument with an opinion.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 9:40 am to
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You're assuming that Arkansas has a good defense.

They do not.



2nd best rushing defense in the conference. 12th in the nation.

In case you didn't notice, we like to run the football.

This board
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:03 am to
Yeah...I'm stupid. You are correct...BH repeatedly made the right reads on the field and even though he couldn't complete a 10 yard swing pass in step, and that he was likely to over/under throw wide open recs by 10 yards, and that he had zero pocket awareness and couldn't progress past looking at his primary rec....ALL of this was due to injury. I admit, I'm stupid. Please forgive me.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:05 am to
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BH repeatedly made the right reads on the field and even though he couldn't complete a 10 yard swing pass in step, and that he was likely to over/under throw wide open recs by 10 yards, and that he had zero pocket awareness and couldn't progress past looking at his primary rec....

You really are stupid.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 10:19 am to
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Without a late fold by King it was bad enough to cost Miles his job.


Another "Jimbo was on his way" post without any creditable source to back it up.

I cant think of 1 example of a recent NC coach going from 1 school to another, not Tenn. or USC or Ga. or Fla. or Tex., but it was all set up to happen at LSU. Perhaps, but common sense tells me no.

Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 11:49 am to
OK. Explain to me where I'm wrong kid. You think BH was accurate on short passes? You think he has good pocket awareness? You think he made the right decisions with the ball and checked down his primary rec and dumped off to the open man? You want to name call that's fine, just tell me where I'm wrong.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40088 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 1:09 pm to
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You think BH was accurate on short passes?

No. This isn't a "read"
quote:

You think he has good pocket awareness?

Decent, not terrible. At least when the pocket isn't collapsing around him like it was in our three losses.
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You think he made the right decisions with the ball and checked down his primary rec and dumped off to the open man?

Neither you nor I know who his primary targets are on a given play or whether he is or isn't checking down. This whole meme needs to stop.
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just tell me where I'm wrong.

The part where you attributed inaccurate and inconsistent passing to his decision-making.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:04 pm to
Those are two entirely different things. Many times he throws long when there is a rec or back wide open underneath. He throes it whether coveted or not...even on third downs when the underneath open guy would have easily made the third down.

His innaccurracy is totally separate from his decision making, so you interpreted that incorrectly.

I don't know why you have a hard on to always try and be a dick. Its not cute and in situations like this it actually makes you look like either a troll or else no clue. I'd be willing to bet that > 80% of people believe as I do in that he is inaccurate, seldom sees the open man, and has less than stellar decision making.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:06 pm to
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It's also rational to deduce he couldn't handle the better defenses on our schedule.

Florida was the best defense not named Alabama that he faced

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64177 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:11 pm to
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The minor hernia is not the reason he struggle for the 3 games in November


How do you know? Do you have any proof supporting this? Also, what do you consider a "minor" hernia? What is the difference between a minor and major hernia? You're making grand assumptions without presenting any facts. If you aren't going to present facts, then you're giving a complete opinion, and isn't to be taken as anything more than that.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
8443 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:09 pm to
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I understand people questioning the OP in November. It seems kinda silly to question it after 12 PM yesterday. However, there will ALWAYS be some fans who refuse to accept facts staring them in the face.


I think some of the questioning of the OP is a lack on your part of acknowledging the repeated inaccuracy Harris showed UNTIL the news of the injury came out. Now that there is an excuse for the poor throws you seem ready to talk about Harris' inability to consistently hit open receivers (with a sparkling new set of graphs!!). Hopefully, the injury was a major part of his problems hitting open receivers, though I am a bit dubious since that problem did not just begin in the Alabama game (4-15 against eastern Michigan), though it no question did appear to become a bigger problem from that game on. But whether that was due to the injury, better defenses, a combination of the two (most likely), we'll never really know. It certainly is not a FACT that his problems with accuracy were solely caused by the injury.

Posted by TommyDaTiger
Nawlins
Member since Dec 2015
11281 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 6:52 pm to
Hey idiot, maybe the hernia had something to do with it
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3607 posts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 7:04 pm to
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I would bet his "off field" after hours habits are a major contributing factor to being sooooo tentaive!


Please elaborate. I'm dying to know. :smh:
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