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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:18 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:18 am to
I heard he was 6-10
Posted by Brbengal
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:23 am to
He's listed as 6'-9" on LSU's website.
Seeing him next to Williams & Days (who are both 6'-6") he's not much taller.
The game program last night lists him as 6'-7".
Posted by mhc4tigers
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:29 am to
Auburn got to the final four without a big front line. They were very good defensively and shot three pointers very well.

Not having a rim protector and making 3for 18 from three is not a formula that says 25 wins.

LSU has a very good chance to be a tournament team. Highly unlikely that we go 16 and 2 in the SEC.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:30 am to
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If only there were an sec team recently without bigs that made it to the final four..


Stop with this lazy arse comparison

LSU is shooting 28% from 3 as a team

Auburn shot 38% last year


Just frickin stop already

LSU has a very very poorly constructed roster
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 7:33 am
Posted by Tpayne99
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:32 am to
Agreed. We can’t shoot 3’s like Auburn, terrible comparison.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:37 am to
Basketball has turned into a guards game. In the 90's the game was owned by bigs in the paint. Now with the athleticism of guards, you can win without huge presence inside.

Having a lanky shot blocker can substantially help a team compiled like LSU but isn't totally necessary. This team doesnt have the pieces to win a championship but they definitely have the pieces to be top 3 or 4 in the SEC and make a mini run in the tournament. This team will bridge the gap between really good LSU teams. Sad truth is the FBI scandal really hurt LSU's recruiting last year and this team will keep LSU relevant so we can pick up another top 10 class this coming year.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:37 am to
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Yeah this is why I don't really care for the comparison to Auburn for this team.



Auburn also had Austin Wiley who I dont know why people always overlook. Also not to mention Chuma Okeke who is certainly bigger than Days or Williams at 6'8 230. I never really got the "this team is just like Auburn last year". We would have to be lights out from 3 and always be minus a Wiley.

Fact is we have some roster holes and anyone who has watched the first few games can see that. It is what it is, this team is unlikely to come close to last year's LSU team in terms of raw success. IT's just going to be really tough to play the Florida, Auburn, Kentucky etc in the conference who have some legit bigs if we cant hit a bunch of our 3's. We did well the first 2 games but the last 2 games just fell off the map from 3.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:47 am to
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Fact is we have some roster holes and anyone who has watched the first few games can see that. It is what it is, this team is unlikely to come close to last year's LSU team in terms of raw success. IT's just going to be really tough to play the Florida, Auburn, Kentucky etc in the conference who have some legit bigs if we cant hit a bunch of our 3's. We did well the first 2 games but the last 2 games just fell off the map from 3.


The biggest worry is going to be on defense and the defensive glass. Wade switched defenses multiple times last night during the game and I suspect that is going to be a trend as the year goes on. I just don't think LSU is good enough to play 100% man to man because they don't do a particularly consistent job of guarding the driving lanes and there are no 6'10"+ guys inside to affect shots at the rim.

The, unfortunate trade off is that can also leave you susceptible to giving up offensive rebounds. Kind of lost in LSU's great season last year was the fact they were a relatively poor defensive rebounding team. I think guys like Days and Williams are tremendous rebounders for their size, but it's hard to win those battles vs. guys 3, 4, 5, 6 inches taller. And particularly to do so without fouling.

As you said, this team has some holes that last year's group didn't have. That's just the way it is. Hopefully the 3 ball starts falling again. One encouraging sign is that thus far teams are only shooting 36% vs. LSU. Now, they haven't exactly played the best offensive teams in the country, but that is significantly better than what the did in the first 4 games last year where opponents averaged 44%.

Utah St. may be the best (or no worse than second best) offensive team they see before conf. play. I'm interested to see if they can keep up the defensive pace vs. those guys.
Posted by KingofthePoint
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 8:54 am to
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LSU has a very very poorly constructed roster

Are you going to repeat this stupid phrase all season?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:02 am to
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Are you going to repeat this stupid phrase all season?


When it’s game 20 & you finally realize, just remember who said it after game 1 lmao
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:04 am to
You act like there were no outside influences that lead to the roster being this way. That’s the issue.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:15 am to
Of course there are outside influences. There always will be. Duh.

I haven’t even discussed that so I’m not sure how I’m acting that way
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:43 am to
I think the technique of repetition as it pertains to making analysis of sports is rarely effective. At best it comes off as annoying and at worst it comes off as arrogant. Either way, I dont disagree with you that LSU's roster has holes. I doubt Wade would tell you differently. Still, using it over and over will not win you any admirers or even respect.

Don't end up like Jon Rothstein Lester. Just don't do it.
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:55 am to
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Don't end up like Jon Rothstein Lester. Just don't do it.


That's an upward trajectory...
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
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Member since Jul 2015
890 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:56 am to
Watford’s game is more refined right now as compared to Naz last year. As much as I appreciate Naz, that is an upgrade on this year’s team.
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:59 am to
Yea, don’t diss Rothstein South
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:00 am to
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Watford’s game is more refined right now as compared to Naz last year. As much as I appreciate Naz, that is an upgrade on this year’s team.



Way too early to say that at the moment.

Dont really get why, but people always want to remember the negatives with Naz and none of the positives. Almost right out the gate last year he had that beauty of a game against UNC-Greensboro going for 29 points.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 10:08 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:18 am to
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Watford’s game is more refined right now as compared to Naz last year.


I think it is "more refined" in the sense that he can be a more consistent scorer than Naz, but Naz's sheer size allowed him to have some big games and score at the rim in ways Watford probably won't be able to as much. I guess you could say Watford looks "smoother" than Naz who was prone to bouts of sheer clumsiness (I don't recall an LSU player falling on the floor more than him).

It's still very early, but Reid had nights where he just went off for huge games (particularly from three) and he was a very good FT shooter. Watford hasn't quite shown that ability to explode or consistently shoot well from the FT line (61% right now).

Offense aside, things really started to change last year when Naz decided to attack the offensive glass. Again, it's early, but Watford isn't quite there yet as a rebounder.

I can't say Watford is an "upgrade" right now, but he hasn't done anything to make you think he can't develop into an "upgrade" as the season goes on.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:24 am to
Feel free to ignore it sir
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:32 am to
Surprised LE is down on this year's LSU team- after all, they're finally rid of "not a winning basketball player" Tremont Waters
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