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re: Question for the McMen
Posted on 3/29/25 at 6:56 pm to GoneFishing21
Posted on 3/29/25 at 6:56 pm to GoneFishing21
Giving a historically bad coach a 7 year contract...
I agree Woodward wasnt going to get fired over canning McMahon. But its still not a good look.
He's trying to solve a bad hire by throwing money at it. I doubt it works.
I agree Woodward wasnt going to get fired over canning McMahon. But its still not a good look.
He's trying to solve a bad hire by throwing money at it. I doubt it works.
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Posted on 3/29/25 at 6:58 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:Not admitting mistakes is very much in human nature. You can't be that naive.
I’m not sure how it benefits Woodward. Making one bad hire and having to fire him wouldn’t cause Woodward to lose his job anyway.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:06 pm to drizztiger
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Not admitting mistakes is very much in human nature.
It’s probably safe to assume he knows it’s a mistake at this point. It doesn’t benefit Woodward to not fire McMahon. He is keeping his job either way. It arguably would have benefited Woodward more to fire MM since that’s what the majority of the fanbase wants. I’m still not seeing how this is a benefit to him.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:17 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:Then why all of this...
It’s probably safe to assume he knows it’s a mistake at this point.
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It doesn’t benefit Woodward to not fire McMahon. He is keeping his job either way. It arguably would have benefited Woodward more to fire MM since that’s what the majority of the fanbase wants. I’m still not seeing how this is a benefit to him.
How you argued against yourself in one post is interesting.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:23 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Then why all of this..
All of what, exactly? You think he believes it’s been a successful hire?
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How you argued against yourself in one post is interesting.
Saying he would benefit more from firing him is arguing against myself? You’ll have to explain that. I’m not following.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:24 pm to GoneFishing21
McMahon will never EVER have a team even remotely close to the quality of Florida’s or Texas Tech’s this year. He himself doesn’t even have enough energy to coach a team that would play hard. It’s so disgusting. Back the fricking brinks truck up for Grant McCasland after this upcoming shitshow of a season.
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:29 pm to GoneFishing21
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All of what, exactly? You think he believes it’s been a successful hire?
The athletic department planted the NIL stories after the OU win, so yeah, I think Scott wanted him back.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:30 pm to hashtag
I am a McMan
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:32 pm to GoneFishing21
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So you have one person talking about the possibility of a positive outcome if recruiting goes well
“Get to .500 or close” is a positive outcome?
Only someone that has been accurarely designated part of “Mcmen” would believe that.
And you are obviously one of them.
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Then you have person saying that he doesn’t think MM is as good of a recruiter as Wade even though they had similar credentials outside of that before coming to LSU.
That person can only mention the ever-ambiguous “competing” when talking about what mcmahon’s teams do well.
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Then you have one guy who consistently says MM is a good coach but hasn’t mastered the portal.
No good coach is 14-40 in conference play after 3 years.
“Mcmen” is absolutely a thing, and you are one. Don’t be mad at other people for accurately pointing out that you are happy with mediocrity in your life.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:33 pm to MasterofTigerBait
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I think Scott wanted him back.
Well I didn’t say he didn’t want him back. I have no idea if he does or doesn’t. I do think it’s pretty obvious that the hire hasn’t been successful, which is what I said.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:34 pm to tygerphan
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How many portal commitments has Will Wade picked up?
Quiet down McMen
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:40 pm to Circle K Beggar
1- Wade’s downfall at LSU was unfortunate. Arguments that he was rightfully fired and that LSU should have stuck with him both have merit.
2- McMahon was a coach who had interest from other schools. Namely, he was South Carolina’s first choice. He had a good resume, and was not considered a bad hire.
3- Wade rehabbed his career in a big way at McNeese and scored a job at a school that is not LSU. He never is nor was he ever going to return to LSU. The Wade book is closed, we should leave it on the shelf.
4- McMahon has proven to be a bad hire. He’s recruited better than I thought he would early on, but he’s developed no one and his in-game coaching has produced losing basketball. A 14-45(?) SEC record speaks for itself.
5- Woodward should have cut his losses and moved on from McMahon. For whatever reason he decided to keep McMahon it puts LSU in a lame duck season and only delays the inevitable. There is little chance that McMahon turns this around. The overwhelming likelihood is that we’ll be starting from scratch next year at this time, a year later than we should have.
The NIL stuff is great, but we’re only going up to the level everyone else has been. Still others are ahead. Most kids are going to choose to play at a school they’ve seen play in the tournament, where they have a reasonable belief they can play for a championship. That’s not LSU currently.
The End
2- McMahon was a coach who had interest from other schools. Namely, he was South Carolina’s first choice. He had a good resume, and was not considered a bad hire.
3- Wade rehabbed his career in a big way at McNeese and scored a job at a school that is not LSU. He never is nor was he ever going to return to LSU. The Wade book is closed, we should leave it on the shelf.
4- McMahon has proven to be a bad hire. He’s recruited better than I thought he would early on, but he’s developed no one and his in-game coaching has produced losing basketball. A 14-45(?) SEC record speaks for itself.
5- Woodward should have cut his losses and moved on from McMahon. For whatever reason he decided to keep McMahon it puts LSU in a lame duck season and only delays the inevitable. There is little chance that McMahon turns this around. The overwhelming likelihood is that we’ll be starting from scratch next year at this time, a year later than we should have.
The NIL stuff is great, but we’re only going up to the level everyone else has been. Still others are ahead. Most kids are going to choose to play at a school they’ve seen play in the tournament, where they have a reasonable belief they can play for a championship. That’s not LSU currently.
The End
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:42 pm to Open Your Eyes
quote:
Get to .500 or close” is a positive outcome
The poster was making a comparison to the previous season. So yeah that would be a positive direction.
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And you are obviously one of them.
Haha you guys love to make things up. Say anything critical of Wade and you must love MM. good job. I actually don’t think MM is the answer for the program. You guys just piggyback off of each other and repeat the same stuff because you think it’ll sound good.
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That person can only mention the ever-ambiguous “competing” when talking about what mcmahon’s teams do well.
Okay, so a “McMen” poster thinks his teams compete.
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“Mcmen” is absolutely a thing, and you are one. Don’t be mad at other people for accurately pointing out that you are happy with mediocrity in your life.
What are you even talking about? I was talking about seeing people accuse others of being “McMen” if they give one criticism of Wade or one positive about a MM team. I wasn’t even talking about me. You just made something up and ran with it. Congrats on that. I’m glad you found those three McMen extremists that have overrun the board. My success in life isn’t based on who the basketball coach is at LSU. Yours shouldn’t be either. The fact that you resort to the “mediocrity in life” posts shows you’re just regurgitating dumb posts from this board.
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:47 pm to LSUChamps03
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2- McMahon was a coach who had interest from other schools. Namely, he was South Carolina’s first choice. He had a good resume, and was not considered a bad hire.
Didn’t need to read anything else. This proves you’re one of the McMen. This invalidates everything else you said.
Did I do it right?
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 3/29/25 at 7:50 pm to LSUChamps03
quote:
1- Wade’s downfall at LSU was unfortunate. Arguments that he was rightfully fired and that LSU should have stuck with him both have merit.
2- McMahon was a coach who had interest from other schools. Namely, he was South Carolina’s first choice. He had a good resume, and was not considered a bad hire.
3- Wade rehabbed his career in a big way at McNeese and scored a job at a school that is not LSU. He never is nor was he ever going to return to LSU. The Wade book is closed, we should leave it on the shelf.
4- McMahon has proven to be a bad hire. He’s recruited better than I thought he would early on, but he’s developed no one and his in-game coaching has produced losing basketball. A 14-45(?) SEC record speaks for itself.
5- Woodward should have cut his losses and moved on from McMahon. For whatever reason he decided to keep McMahon it puts LSU in a lame duck season and only delays the inevitable. There is little chance that McMahon turns this around. The overwhelming likelihood is that we’ll be starting from scratch next year at this time, a year later than we should have.
The NIL stuff is great, but we’re only going up to the level everyone else has been. Still others are ahead. Most kids are going to choose to play at a school they’ve seen play in the tournament, where they have a reasonable belief they can play for a championship. That’s not LSU currently.
The End
Agree with 95% of this. And the 5% doesnt matter. Well done sir.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:00 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:
It’s probably safe to assume he knows it’s a mistake at this point.
quote:These are both your quotes.
Saying he would benefit more from firing him is arguing against myself? You’ll have to explain that. I’m not following.
Explain to me why he didn't fire him and instead pushed the $$NIL narrative.
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Btw, give me a real thought, not some blah.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:06 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Btw, give me a real thought, not some blah.
I don’t base my thoughts off what you want to hear.
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These are both your quotes.
Yeah, they are. Seems as though the burden of proof is on you to show how they contradict each other. I believe he knows that the hire didn’t work at this point and I also believe Woodward’s reputation would benefit more from firing him because that’s what the majority of the fanbase wants. Still don’t see the contradiction.
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Explain to me why he didn't fire him and instead pushed the $$NIL narrative
I never claimed to know this, nor did I mention anything about it.
This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:07 pm to GoneFishing21
Well he’s obviously wrong but didn’t say anything to suggest he’s a mcmen
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:08 pm to Madking
Right, of course
Posted on 3/29/25 at 8:10 pm to drizztiger
All that NIL is really paying off isn’t it? Have you seen the list of possibles and signees? This might be the worst roster of the 4.
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