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re: Question about the bias of SEC refs
Posted on 10/19/10 at 3:57 pm to BengalBeaux
Posted on 10/19/10 at 3:57 pm to BengalBeaux
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I think Bammer and the Barn consistently get the calls, and yes, primarily because of the SEC Headquarters location.
But that's confusing. Because on the one hand, I'm being told that the SEC offices are full of Bama alums....and well, don't you think that if there were a bias, it would be against Auburn??????????
Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:06 pm to Spirit of Dunson
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their fans said that the refs cheated for us
You mean when the ref tackled Stephen Garcia?
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:10 pm to BengalBeaux
quote:did you watch this year's Bama-Ark game?
I've been watching SEC football for over 40 years, Bammer has always gotten the calls.
the refs were bad, but they weren't biased one way or the other.
eta: both teams were undefeated at the time though
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:11 pm to WikiTiger
quote:Just because I don't care to beat my head up against the wall trying to find data for you to uphold or reject a quantifiable null hypothesis doesn't mean I wish to remain ignorant.
it seems like people would prefer to remain ignorant and cling to their emotion based stances that have no basis in fact.
Now, if you want to remain naive and believe that the good people of Alabama would never sway what goes on at the SEC offices located in their backyard, that's your prerogative.
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 5:02 pm to JPLSU1981
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Most of the conference's referees live in (or are from) the state of Alabama.
Would you mind linking the roster? I'd be interested in seeing that.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 5:03 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Several SEC Refs have homes and large loans from Colonial Bank and Regions Bank.
Would you mind listing names and amounts please?
Thanks.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 5:05 pm to Mike Honcho
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After review it was seen that the ball was tipped by another player 2 feet in front of the receiver well after the receiver had been tackled.
That play was not reviewed. I wish I knew where that myth came from.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 5:43 pm to 62zip
What I'd like to know is if they ever got around to installing HD monitors and feeds in the replay booth. So re-freakin-diculous that every Joe blow with a TV and rabbit ears could see better detail of PP's interception than the guys making the review. With the money flowing into the SEC these days and replay officials using suck-arse equipment. Unbelievable.
I don't trust the guy who did that but at least he shouldn't be able to hide behind the SD excuse.
I don't trust the guy who did that but at least he shouldn't be able to hide behind the SD excuse.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 5:49 pm to WikiTiger
quote:I find them very consistent...at phucking up.
I'm really confused.
Reading the things that many of you guys post, I should believe that the refs are biased for Auburn.
However, last year after the Alabama game and the PP non-interception, it was that the refs were bias for Alabama.
Or are you guys saying that the SEC refs are biased for both Auburn and Alabama? If so, how the frick does that make any sense? You are saying that refs that want Alabama to win also want Auburn to win???
Please help clear up my confusion. Thanks in advance.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 6:30 pm to JPLSU1981
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I don't think there is "blatant cheating" by the SEC refs, but I do think there is certainly a natural human bias that at times rears its head on questionable calls.
I will always beleive there is "blatant cheating" by the SEC refs and office. Unless LSU has a total meltdown, you will see SEC cheating at its finest in Auburn's favor this Saturday. We, LSU fans, are already predicting with confidence, a screw job from the SEC officials, vs Auburn. It has become, not how well the Tigers will perform vs Auburn or Alabama, but how bad of a screw job we will endure from the SEC officials. I wish LSU could demand other leagues officials for our games vs Auburn, Alabama, and UF.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 6:38 pm to Victry4LSU
Yet the overall record of the series is 24-19-1 in favor of LSU. And over the last ten games it's 6-4 LSU. LSU has won 3 in a row, Auburn hasn't won back-to-back since '99-'00.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 6:40 pm to jmath23lsu
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Yet the overall record of the series is 24-19-1 in favor of LSU. And over the last ten games it's 6-4 LSU. LSU has won 3 in a row, Auburn hasn't won back-to-back since '99-'00.
don't go fricking up this thread with facts, a-hole
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 6:52 pm to WikiTiger
The refs are incompetant period. see the Florida game last week with 2 refs standing under the goal posts. One signals good the other no good. How can you miss that
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:00 pm to jmath23lsu
quote:SO.....The overall record should at least be 26-17-1 and 8-2 last 10 years, and at least a 6 game win streak if not for the "Grand Theft Auburn" 2004 and its sequeal "Grand Theft Auburn Part Deaux" 2006. If you would like to claim LSU was not cheated in 2004 and 2006, then be my guest. I personally do not like cheaters and the SEC office response regarding those two games and others have proven to me and others that they are in fact cheaters. I don't have to sit here and try to prove to you that they are cheaters. Just watch our games past, present, and future vs Alabama and Auburn, and any other games in which they the SEC has an agenda like Arkansas vs UF, last year nad Arkansas vs AU this year and let THEIR actions prove the point for me.
Yet the overall record of the series is 24-19-1 in favor of LSU. And over the last ten games it's 6-4 LSU. LSU has won 3 in a row, Auburn hasn't won back-to-back since '99-'00.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:14 pm to Victry4LSU
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I don't have to sit here and try to prove to you that they are cheaters.
This would be impossible. You're claiming that the referees, and the SEC offices, are intentionally and maliciously officiating games to benefit specific teams. There's zero actual evidence of this.
And as Wiki has said, people would much rather keep believing what they think they know is true, than find factual statistics to prove it.
I don't like bad officiating any more than anyone else does, but I have a feeling that if someone actually found the overall statistics, they wouldn't be nearly as one-sided as LSU fans want to believe.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:23 pm to jmath23lsu
to clear up the replay official thing from last year he wasn't a bama alum. he was a tech alum but was friends with da bear and has been paid to speak at bama booster club meetings.
the fact he has been paid by bama should have meant he couldnt be in the booth bc that is a clear case of possible bias.
as far as the stats id like to see them but im to lazy to look them up but maybe try something like the team profiles on espn but you might have to go gama by game box scores to get them
the fact he has been paid by bama should have meant he couldnt be in the booth bc that is a clear case of possible bias.
as far as the stats id like to see them but im to lazy to look them up but maybe try something like the team profiles on espn but you might have to go gama by game box scores to get them
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:29 pm to heartbreakTiger
The referees are human beings. Errors do occur. I do think the home team more times than not will get certain calls that could determine the outcome of a game. I do believe that there has been some crooked calls in the history of the SEC. Tim Dohaney (former NBA ref) is Not the only crook that ever called a game in the Professional or college ranks. When money talks, temptations can be hard to resist.
A home team in this particular situation with both teams highly ranked is going to get the benefit. I would say the same for LSU if this game were in Tiger Stadium. Human nature...it is not right but it is what it is. Maybe next year, the karma might go LSU's way.
A home team in this particular situation with both teams highly ranked is going to get the benefit. I would say the same for LSU if this game were in Tiger Stadium. Human nature...it is not right but it is what it is. Maybe next year, the karma might go LSU's way.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:37 pm to cheapseat
If you don't think that the SEC refs protected Florida and Alabama last year, you are either incredibly naive or totally blind.
The SEC office was having wet dreams of a Florida/Bama SECCG. Those teams were the media darlings, and the SEC office wanted that SECCG... badly.
Right now, Auburn is ranked #4 and they have the Heisman front-runner. I would bet everything I own that the SEC office is having wet dreams of an undefeated Auburn and 1-loss Alabama playing the Iron Bowl of the century. A Bama win in that game would put them back in the NC game.
I fully expect the refs to do everything possible to keep Auburn in the game this weekend. If the LSU/Auburn game goes down to the wire, we will get ZERO close calls from the refs late in the game.
BOOK IT ! ! ! ! !
The SEC office was having wet dreams of a Florida/Bama SECCG. Those teams were the media darlings, and the SEC office wanted that SECCG... badly.
Right now, Auburn is ranked #4 and they have the Heisman front-runner. I would bet everything I own that the SEC office is having wet dreams of an undefeated Auburn and 1-loss Alabama playing the Iron Bowl of the century. A Bama win in that game would put them back in the NC game.
I fully expect the refs to do everything possible to keep Auburn in the game this weekend. If the LSU/Auburn game goes down to the wire, we will get ZERO close calls from the refs late in the game.
BOOK IT ! ! ! ! !
Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:38 pm to liquid rabbit
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When in fact it's just really horrible calls that "just by chance" always happen to go the way of the Alabama schools.
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 7:42 pm to Klingler7
Let's start with the premise that as a general rule SEC refs are not very good. I think years of watching SEC football supports that conclusion. Their most common errors are over-officiating. When in doubt, SEC refs throw flags. For example, in the Fla/Ark game last year the back judge called roughing the passer when he later admitted he did not see the play but he threw the flag anyway. Why throw that flag if you are in doubt. The ref was suspended. This is classic over-officiating.
The most egregious example was Auburn 2006. The replay official made calls from the box that were not even suspected by the refs on the field. Two of the calls were egregious. Turns out the guy was an Auburn alum or in someway affiliated with Auburn and should never have been calling the game. In fact, the SEC changed their rule after that game.
Then there was the P Peterson interception last year against Alabama...
So...yes...there has been Alabama/Auburn bias and i do not think any knowledgeable observer can deny the awfulness of SEC officiating. We have the best football with the worst officiating.
The most egregious example was Auburn 2006. The replay official made calls from the box that were not even suspected by the refs on the field. Two of the calls were egregious. Turns out the guy was an Auburn alum or in someway affiliated with Auburn and should never have been calling the game. In fact, the SEC changed their rule after that game.
Then there was the P Peterson interception last year against Alabama...
So...yes...there has been Alabama/Auburn bias and i do not think any knowledgeable observer can deny the awfulness of SEC officiating. We have the best football with the worst officiating.
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