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re: QB update: Harris back out in Cali working with Whitfield
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:43 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:43 pm to rmnldr
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He also tracks down one wide receiver and just chunks it up and hopes for the best.
This sounds exactly like Jennings.
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Jennings has proven that he has the arm strength and the ball placement to get it down the field (he overthrew Dural twice) and he's gotten better at intermediate throws (his throw to Jeter).
I have no idea what games you have been watching to put "Jennings" and "arm strength" in the same sentence. Yeah, he can loft it up for the receiver to run underneath it, but he cannot throw down the middle because of his weak arm. The throw to Jeter was nice, but he missed on too many other intermediate throws to make me believe he's made the leap.
And I think the interception thrown by Harris is more justified than the near-interception AJ threw in the endzone in double coverage. And he overthrew Dural twice? But what about what you said about ball placement? I don't think defending throws like THIS is a winning argument.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 2:56 pm
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 2:45 pm to rmnldr
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Not every true freshman was as lost as BH. I'll give him slack because he was a true frosh but when you come to a school and two other QBs get run off (Rettig and Rivers) in wake of your arrival you should at least be able to be serviceable in a game.
So he wasn't serviceable against State or NMSU? He got overwhelmed @ Auburn. It happens.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:09 pm to MightyYat
Harris is lacking experience that he should've had last year.
Jennings is lacking talent at this level.
I agree that Harris scrambles out of the pocket to soon but he makes plays with his legs that Jennings can't make and he creates plays with his arm that Jennings can't make.
Jennings is lacking talent at this level.
I agree that Harris scrambles out of the pocket to soon but he makes plays with his legs that Jennings can't make and he creates plays with his arm that Jennings can't make.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:26 pm to Slapouttiger
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Yea I would rather Harris stay and throw to his wide outs. Looks more like a vacation to me
I live here is San Diego and Whitfield holds most of his workouts at my sons high school football field. I have seen his workouts and one thing I can promise you is the kids competing in his camps and workouts do not look like they are on vacation. Those kids put in some serious work.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:31 pm to Nix to Twillie
The throw you just linked showed his arm strength 
Dural was inside and he threw it outside, QB/receiver not on the same page.
Dural was inside and he threw it outside, QB/receiver not on the same page.
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but he cannot throw down the middle because of his weak arm
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:31 pm to Dudebro2
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I live here is San Diego and Whitfield holds most of his workouts at my sons high school football field. I have seen his workouts and one thing I can promise you is the kids competing in his camps and workouts do not look like they are on vacation. Those kids put in some serious work.
No, nooo. He's on vacation. Jennings is in Tiger Stadium throwing go routes to Dural. Get it right Dude
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:32 pm to rmnldr
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The throw you just linked showed his arm strength
No, it showed his inaccuracy. Along with a noodle arm, it combines to form one of the worst college QB's in all of football.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:37 pm to rmnldr
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he has the arm strength and the ball placement to get it down the field (he overthrew Dural twice)
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:45 pm to Mr. Wayne
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:47 pm to spiderman
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Harris will be a hell of a backup QB. No matter what he does though, Miles is not letting him start
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Miles has made up his mind that Jennings is his man and nothing Harris does is gonna convince Miles that he should be the starter
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this will be proven this season when Jennings continues to struggle, our offense is stagnant and we are losing multiple games and Miles will continue to say he plans on getting Harris playing time but doesn't.
you sound like a spoiled little brat that doesn't get his way.
oh, and you don't know shite about college football or the inner working of the LSU football team.
yet you spout off vitriol like you are superior to Miles. how pathetic.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:50 pm to BilJ
I have no dog in this fight. But many tards on this site seem to have preconceived notions on this issue every time it comes up...the Miles haters immediately show up and the delusional arm-chair QBs shortly thereafter...lol...I have a slightly different take on Harris than most, but this site seems to be hard-headed on the QB situation...from both sides usually...so why waste the effort...lol...oh, well, here goes...I think that neither of these QBs are the real answer...they are both flawed...but Jennings does seem to be tougher...jmho
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:55 pm to rmnldr
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Inaccuracy?
Season 111 227 1611 48.9 7.10
Home 65 139 1072 46.8 7.71
Yes... Inaccuracy. And way to show one clip to prove that a sub 50% passer is accurate.
Jennings to the other team
There are also clips like this one. This is a prime example of what his lack of arm strength brings. He has to combat it by knowing the playbook religiously and throwing to spots before it's clear if the player will be there. He knows where the player is supposed to be, but if he is jammed or knocked slightly off the route, it's and incompletion/interception. He doesn't have the talent to adjust. It's also why he locks on so consistently. He doesn't have the arm strength to go to a second read and throw a dart to a receiver who just broke open. Result in that case is either sack or ineffective scramble.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:16 pm to Phil2012
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I have no dog in this fight. But many tards on this site seem to have preconceived notions on this issue every time it comes up...the Miles haters immediately show up and the delusional arm-chair QBs shortly thereafter...lol...I have a slightly different take on Harris than most, but this site seems to be hard-headed on the QB situation...from both sides usually...so why waste the effort...lol...oh, well, here goes...I think that neither of these QBs are the real answer...they are both flawed...but Jennings does seem to be tougher...jmho
I went to the spring game so that is the latest info we have.
Jennings knows the offense and is improving on intermediate throws but his long ball is limited to about 40- 45yds. His 70 yd completion was not a TD because Dural had to almost stop to catch it and then start running again. He did better on the short and intermediate over the middle throws - if you watched it on TV then you didn't see it because they did not show the late parts. He also seems to be tracking his 2nd and 3rd option receivers better.
Harris can chuck it about 55-60 yds. He made some nice throws of all lengths but they are rolling him out more and when they do that he tends to "lose the field" if his first option is not open. Harris is a better runner and looks like Russell Wilson from that perspective. BH still gets confused and had to call 3-4 TO's in the game - AJ called none. That is not a terrible thing but you can tell he does not know plays as well as AJ.
Overall, at this point I agree with CLM that neither player has separated himself but I do believe that BH has more upside potential. If AJ starts and gets hurt then we do not have any drop off with BH, IMHO.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 4:52 pm to spiderman
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Glad he's putting in work. Harris will be a hell of a backup QB. No matter what he does though, Miles is not letting him start. Miles has made up his mind that Jennings is his man and nothing Harris does is gonna convince Miles that he should be the starter. Sad but true and this will be proven this season when Jennings continues to struggle, our offense is stagnant and we are losing multiple games and Miles will continue to say he plans on getting Harris playing time but doesn't.
This is the sad truth I'm afraid.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:15 pm to rmnldr
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Jennings has proven that he has the arm strength and the ball placement to get it down the field
Jennings has average arm strength, at best.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:44 pm to rmnldr
Might be one of 2 or 3 times we saw that. It was his best throw all year. In game 1. Think about that.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:07 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:40 pm to rmnldr
Dude he's just not very good! If you can't see that, then you need to either watch a lot more football or quit watching it all together. I got a 10 year old that I honestly believe could challenge him.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:53 pm to Jenar Boy
How long is Harris going to be on vacation at the beach. He needs to get in the film room and learn how to read defenses and not be playing in the sand with the enemy players at the beach !
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:00 pm to Slapouttiger
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How long is Harris going to be on vacation at the beach. He needs to get in the film room and learn how to read defenses and not be playing in the sand with the enemy players at the beach !
And the parade of idiots continues.
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