re: Psychology of a Fanbase . . . Origin of the Negatiger

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LSU fans are just a symptom of a larger problem

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Yes and its called being so afraid of their future that some of them can't enjoy the present.

Here we are going to play Penn St on New Years Day (maybe) with a shot at another top 10 finish (maybe) and you would think by the moaning and meshing of teeth that LSU football had just been given the death penalty by the NCAA.

Oh well, it's a bitch and moan world we live in these days...why should sports be any different...I guess.

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I agree, however, someone who relentlessly attacks the program does, well, relentlessly attack the program. Why do you think I'm talking about you?

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The liberal usage of the word negatiger is very prevalent on this forum. It's been used to mask and misdirect honest posters as some sort of badge of shame. It's very juvenile and only shows the lack of intelligent thought present here. I am fine with the label negatiger, because I'm not concerned with superficial attempts to distract from the real issues.

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Again, this is a matter of a lack of forgiveability. Our situation is quite unique over the last 2 seasons. We should stick by our head coach after making the very difficult decision to drop the starting qb (who publicly admitted to being a serious problem and regrets it). Last year was one of the freakiest years ever, when our qb should have been learning to be a great qb he got screwed by an unbelievable case of bad luck (Pick 6's and all)

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RP started 2 whole games for LSU in his career. He was known to be a bad seed and had been rumored to be released from the program for a year prior to his actual release. Not having the program prepared in the inevitability of his release doesn't bode well for the man in charge. Also, blaming 8 SEC losses on one QB and luck is too narrow-minded. The promotion of co-DCs without true experience was more of an issue in 2008 than was Lee and the pick 6s. Again, management decisions by the person in charge.

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If this were only the case. One who cries out that Miles must be fired and compares him to other programs with the utmost of disgust is not someone who supports. If you must camp yourself in this grouping by all means do so, but it sounds like you too should be against the negatiger.

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I believe Miles deserved every opportunity to right the ship until he proved beyond a doubt to me that he is ill prepared during the Ole Miss game. A HC of 9 years at any college level should not be as lost and confused as he was at the end of that game. I think he is a fine person, but LSU doesn't pay him almost $4 million per season to be a good guy.

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In the end what would you rather: the sheep who follows blindly, or the sheep who constantly finds fault with the flock. In terms of fan-dom, the sheep who follows blindly is a thousand times better (in my opinion). But, oh, if only everyone could be a cognizant, intelligent, etc., etc. supporter.

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I don't think it's black and white. This isn't an absolute. Finding fault to find fault is not helpful. But blindly following without thought is foolish. The blind leading the naked is no way to live life.

I have faith in God, family and friends. I will support LSU until the day of my death. But I don't feel the need to put blind faith into a person that has fairly conclusively shown me that he is not capable of continual competence.

That said,

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But I don't feel the need to put blind faith into a person that has fairly conclusively shown me that he is not capable of continual competence.

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Really, that's great. Why do you suppose you are a negatiger? I haven't claimed that you are. You're claiming that you are, which is weird.

Prove all you want that you do not trust Miles, that's fine. It's the furious headhunting which I think defines negatiger. Trite as the word may be, its a real phenomenon.

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InzachayoMayo

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Last year was one of the freakiest years ever, when our qb should have been learning to be a great qb he got screwed by an unbelievable case of bad luck (Pick 6's and all)

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You call that bad luck? You must not have noticed all of the confusion on the sidelines ALL YEAR LONG. I don't think any freshman QB could have been successful in that position.

The COACHES didn't give JL the best chance for success.

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Why do you suppose you are a negatiger? I haven't claimed that you are. You're claiming that you are, which is weird.

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Why is it important for you to label people? You can call me the N-word all you want. As I said, I find it juvenile and only distracts from true discourse.

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Prove all you want that you do not trust Miles, that's fine.

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I probably do have an agenda now after the Ole Miss game. Prior to that I wasn't convinced Miles was inherently incompetent. I did and still do think that Crowton will continue to drive the offense into the ground. But just as in life, circumstances change.

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You can call me the N-word all you want.

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Dude, stop. No one's calling you anything. It's going to be ok.

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I find it juvenile and only distracts from true discourse.

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It just so happens that this discourse is on the word negatiger. You are "distracting from true discourse" if you want to change the subject of the post.

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convinced Miles was inherently incompetent.

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There. There it is. Inherently? Really? I believe that qualifies as an "exaggerated negative response."

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I don't think he is incompetent on purpose. I believe he truly is incapable of sustained competence. I do not believe this is exaggerated by any means. 9 years as a HC and he pulls off the Ole Miss debacle, which is regarded nationally as one of the worst coaching blunders in CFB history. That's not even a negatiger view, that's objective uninvolved opinions.

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But he just wants to "forgive" and eventually people start to forget about it. If people forget about it, it doesn't start to add up. It's easier to forgive a mistake if you don't remember the last time you forgave, and the time before that.

If a woman marries a good man and he becomes an alcoholic and beats her, but she forgives him and it keeps happening, it's her own fault if she stays.

Yes, Les Miles has given us some fantastic memories and great seasons. Maybe it has made you forget about all of the easily prevented mistakes. Maybe, to you, it has masked the stench of undisciplined chaos on the sidelines that I can smell at gametime from Houston, over the aroma of BBQ ribs.

Stop using my name in replies when you either do not have the ability or refuse to attempt to comprehend anything I have posted.

Thank you and

At some level, I think this is true. Most us know we were a 10 or 11 point underdog if we had to play USC at the end of the 2003 season. I've hated USC since 2003. I've always hated Bama. I hated Texas A&M in the 90s. I also hate Florida.

I hate them because they have taken something from me. I know it but so what?