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Proposed standards for head coaches of LSU major sports
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:19 pm
How would you feel if the university adopted the following standards for retaining a head coach of any of the three major sports.
Because the expectations at LSU for major sports is that we are or expect to be a top 10 school, the head coach will be dismissed if any of the following occurs:
1) they have gone two years without post season play.
2) they have gone five years without an appearance in a major post season event (New Years Day Bowl, Sweet Sixteen, College World Series)
3) they have gone 10 years without a national championship.
Too tough? Not Tough enough? Curious to know how Ranters would feel about this.
Because the expectations at LSU for major sports is that we are or expect to be a top 10 school, the head coach will be dismissed if any of the following occurs:
1) they have gone two years without post season play.
2) they have gone five years without an appearance in a major post season event (New Years Day Bowl, Sweet Sixteen, College World Series)
3) they have gone 10 years without a national championship.
Too tough? Not Tough enough? Curious to know how Ranters would feel about this.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:21 pm to tigbit
would you want to move your entire family for a job with those stipulations?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:23 pm to LSUJML
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would you want to move your entire family for a job with those stipulations?
Yes, for the pay and buyout - not that different than what we have now.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:27 pm to tigbit
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Yes, for the pay and buyout - not that different than what we have now.
So you think money is worth more than stability for someone with young kids?
I mean if you are wanting someone who doesn’t have kids or they are grown but you can’t expect someone to want the job that bad they are going to move a family around when they can make a good living at a good school without a bunch f stipulations over their head
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:29 pm to tigbit
in real life - running a company - you can do real well finishing 2 or 3
why does a coach in a VERY poor state be expected to meet your standards
why does a coach in a VERY poor state be expected to meet your standards
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:30 pm to LSUJML
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So you think money is worth more than stability for someone with young kids?
Yes. These stipulations are basically there at all major schools, if you don't have the chest, don't take the job.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:30 pm to tigbit
I'm really glad you're not in charge of the LSU athletic department
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:31 pm to LSUJML
(would you want to move your entire family for a job with those stipulations)
To coach at LSU... at one of the premier sports programs in the world? And to make that kind of money?
YOU BET YOUR arse I WOULD.
I personally think they have all these contracts wrong. Lower base pay, and much higher incentives.
To coach at LSU... at one of the premier sports programs in the world? And to make that kind of money?
YOU BET YOUR arse I WOULD.
I personally think they have all these contracts wrong. Lower base pay, and much higher incentives.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:31 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I'm really glad you're not in charge of the LSU athletic department
How do you know I am not?
This is a discussion, why can't you state what your minimum requirement for performance would be then?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:34 pm to cra_cra
Now pretend you aren’t an LSU fan and you already have a comparable job that doesn’t have those unrealistic expectations.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:36 pm to tigbit
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How do you know I am not?
This is a discussion, why can't you state what your minimum requirement for performance would be then?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:37 pm to tigbit
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:37 pm to tigbit
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1) they have gone two years without post season play.
2) they have gone five years without an appearance in a major post season event (New Years Day Bowl, Sweet Sixteen, College World Series)
So they make it to Super Regionals 5 straight years but never advance to Omaha they should be fired?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:38 pm to tigbit
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:39 pm to guydiamond
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Now pretend you aren’t an LSU fan and you already have a comparable job that doesn’t have those unrealistic expectations.
unrealistic expectations??? please explain.
And the answer is emphatically still yes. I wouldn't want to be a coach that didn't have expectations... just to draw a pay check. I want the challenge. I'm not afraid of it either.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:47 pm to tigbit
I can guarantee that none of those 3 stipulations are discussed during a performance review, nor should they be. What gets discussed is that you are running a clean program, does the coach have the resources he needs, and the coach hears the areas his team needs to improve. The expectation is that you improve in those areas and don't digress in others.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:54 pm to tigbit
The standards should be simple. Don’t dramatically underachieve year after year. Yes there’s going to be down years and we all have to accept that but if continuously put a team on the field that talent wise is one of the best in the country and have nothing to show for it there is a problem. We were in the CWS finals 2 years ago with a talented team. This year we were two wins away from Omaha with a team with a a lot of talent but also a lot of injuries. Was it a down year? Yea maybe so but it happens.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:59 pm to Gee Grenouille
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I can guarantee that none of those 3 stipulations are discussed during a performance review, nor should they be. What gets discussed is that you are running a clean program, does the coach have the resources he needs, and the coach hears the areas his team needs to improve. The expectation is that you improve in those areas and don't digress in others.
You don't think performance expectations are discussed in a "performance" review?
Tell me the last time a coach got fired because their team wasn't performing academically? Tell me when the last coach was fired for breaking rules (where the NCAA wasn't involved).
You have lost your mind if performance isn't discussed. Do you think poor performing teams bring in as much revenue? LOL..
My lord this has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:02 pm to tigbit
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These stipulations are basically there at all major schools
Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:04 pm to The Ostrich
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The standards should be simple. Don’t dramatically underachieve year after year. Yes there’s going to be down years and we all have to accept that but if continuously put a team on the field that talent wise is one of the best in the country and have nothing to show for it there is a problem. We were in the CWS finals 2 years ago with a talented team. This year we were two wins away from Omaha with a team with a a lot of talent but also a lot of injuries. Was it a down year? Yea maybe so but it happens.
Now thats a logical, level-headed approach. That is essentially how I feel, as well.
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