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re: Point Per Yard - The New Statistic No One Wants You To See (Updated)
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:01 pm to LSUTigahBait
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:01 pm to LSUTigahBait
wow, thanks.
someone please send this to svp.
someone please send this to svp.
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:02 pm to MOT
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And it isn't just confirmation bias, these numbers are actually tracked on several websites outside of this thread.
yes but lots of people who have no idea what the stat even really means are like frick YEAH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO PUT IT, BUT I HAVEN'T UNTIL THIS THREAD. GEAUX TIGAHS!
that's confirmation bias. they're just seeking any random stat that backs up their preconceived notion
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:02 pm to MOT
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Yards/Point is a team stat, not an offensive stat SFP.
it judges the entire team? how?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:03 pm to AlxTgr
I did it based on points per yard because I liked the metric more then yards per point.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:04 pm to LSUTigahBait
theres still 3 games (hopefully) of football yet to be played, but the 2011 LSU team deserves to be mentioned as one of the best ever.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why not just look at field position, then?
Because if points weren't included you couldn't tell how well the team capitalizes on said field position.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it judges the entire team? how?
It has already been explained in this thread and you've already responded to it.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:06 pm to LSUTigahBait
Someone has a lot of time on his hands.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:06 pm to MOT
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Because if points weren't included you couldn't tell how well the team capitalizes on said field position.
does it really matter?
if you score on an 80-yard drive, that likely was a great drive
why is it more valuable to score on a 50-yard drive? how does that say anything about your offense different than the other drive?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:08 pm to makinskrilla
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but the 2011 LSU team deserves to be mentioned as one of the best ever.
relative to its year? likely
i think this is a down year for CFB (not that it's anything new. it's been sliding since about 2005 for whatever reason)
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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our efficiency matters more we could have more raw passing yards if we wanted
I'm not convinced you can turn these things off and on when you want. Sure, you can develop timing in practice, but that can fail you in game time and a lack of clutch experience in the passing game can be daunting.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:10 pm to LSUTigahBait
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As could be expected, LSU is actually ahead of the pack by a very large margin averaging over one tenth of a point for every hard we have gained.
So pull em out boys!! Lets make this offense #1!!!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:11 pm to Shaka Zulu
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I'm not convinced you can turn these things off and on when you want.
i'm not either. the bama game worried me in this regard. if we get down on a team with a solid D we may have issues
but if JJ plays like he did against ole miss, i feel safer
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why is it more valuable to score on a 50-yard drive?
It isn't more valuable, points are points. It just shows teams can be efficient and effectively run up scores without the need for high total yard outputs.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's confirmation bias. they're just seeking any random stat that backs up their preconceived notion
My preconceived notion:
This "DAMN STRONG" LSU Team is the best in the country.
Random stats to back it up:
11-0, Unanimous #1, Perfect BCS ranking of 1.0
Guess I'm guilty of confirmation bias....
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:15 pm to MOT
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It just shows teams can be efficient and effectively run up scores without the need for high total yard outputs.
efficient? yes
but i don't think it shows how good an offense is, esp if we're throwing in special teams scoring
theoretically, you could drive 20 yards each time and kick a FG and have a 0.15. 25 yards would be a 0.12
that really doesn't say shite about your offense. it says you have a good-great kicker, though
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
"Brazil" is an excellent movie, BTW.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but i don't think it shows how good an offense is, esp if we're throwing in special teams scoring
theoretically, you could drive 20 yards each time and kick a FG and have a 0.15. 25 yards would be a 0.12
that really doesn't say shite about your offense. it says you have a good-great kicker, though
I already said it isn't just an offensive stat. I clearly said "teams" not "offenses", you even quoted it in your response. As for the actual numbers, I prefer to look at it as yards/point.
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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:25 pm to TigerNavyDoc
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I wouldn't go so far as to call us the best offense
i wouldnt either, but the stats are very interesting...it shows how much the def and sp teams help our offense be higher rated then it should be...
good work man...
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes but lots of people who have no idea what the stat even really means are like frick YEAH, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO PUT IT, BUT I HAVEN'T UNTIL THIS THREAD. GEAUX TIGAHS! that's confirmation bias. they're just seeking any random stat that backs up their preconceived notion
very true....im sure they are hard core JJ supporters....it doesnt show an effective or ineffective QB, it shows an effective or ineffective football strategy...
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