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Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Homer Pelican
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:00 am to
The SEC champ will be in with 2 loses. Book it
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21381 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:06 am to
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Not so sure considering the SEC fatigue we seem to be seeing


It's not SEC fatigue. A one loss UGA will not have a schedule to stack up against any one loss Pac, Big team for damn sure. Probably not ACC or Big 12 team either.
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:08 am to
I think we need to see the first playoff ranking to understand better. I believe last week we should’ve been in the 15 range and we were 20.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the committee rank us 10-12 initially.
Posted by TSS4LSU
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2003
751 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:24 am to
0% chance of playoffs unless lots of teams lose in front of us.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
777 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:27 am to
Put the pipe down.

There’s almost ZERO chance 2 sec teams get in. And there’s no a way a 2 loss SEC team is getting in over a 1 loss pac12 or big10 team.

A 2 loss LSU team isn’t getting in without complete anarchy. The sec is having a down year, that paired with the sec fatigue, it just ain’t gonna happen.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:35 am to
I honestly don't see two SEC teams getting in this year. The only way I see a path for LSU is for them to become the most attractive SEC team and that would require the SEC East champ coming into the game with a loss.

If Georgia goes to Atlanta unbeaten, even after losing the SEC championship game, a once-beaten Georgia team is still the SEC's most attractive team.



This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by WoodlandsTX_Tiger
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
37 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:38 am to
What needed to happen was to not lose to Ole Miss.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4105 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:42 am to
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Every year lsu fans are trying to figure out a scenario to make the playoffs with 2-3 losses

And we’re the only two-loss team to play in BCS and win.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4105 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:43 am to
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A 2 loss LSU team isn’t getting in without complete anarchy
I agree. We need to just take care of the business in front of us and control what we can.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54043 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 11:43 am to
This playoff talk in October with two losses is absurd
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28644 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 12:02 pm to
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Put the pipe down.

There’s almost ZERO chance 2 sec teams get in. And there’s no a way a 2 loss SEC team is getting in over a 1 loss pac12 or big10 team.

A 2 loss LSU team isn’t getting in without complete anarchy. The sec is having a down year, that paired with the sec fatigue, it just ain’t gonna happen.


The SEC is having a "down year" realtive to their usual performance, but not necessarily relative to the current landscape. The SEC still has the second ranked conf. RPI and has the same number of ranked teams as the Pac-12.

To say there "almost zero" chance seems a bit odd considering LSU lived this possibility JUST LAST YEAR.

9-2 LSU was ranked #5 in the CFP poll heading into their game vs. A&M last year behind (1) UGA, (2) Ohio State, (3) Michigan, and (4) TCU. Despite two losses LSU was ranked AHEAD of 10-1 Pac 12 leader USC and 10-1 ACC leader Clemson. In that final regular season weekend #2 Ohio St. lost to #3 Michigan. That dropped OSU from #2 to #5 and allowed #6 USC to move up to #4. The nauseating unknown is what would have happened if #5 LSU would have beaten A&M? Would the voters have put #6 USC ahead of #5 LSU regardless because USC beat #15 ND, while LSU beat 4-7 A&M? Maybe. But even in that scenario it's hard to imagine LSU would have dropped from #5 simply for WINNING. They may have stayed there. But not dropped. That would have opened the door for LSU to get in with a win over #1 UGA in the SECCG.

It's forgotten because last year was still better than expected, but LSU was DAMN close to being a playoff team going into the final game of the reg season. Now, I doubt they would have beaten UGA, but a 2 loss LSU was very much in the mix until they shite themselves vs. A&M.
Posted by TommyDaTiger
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 12:10 pm to
Mats86

Playoff Prediction
LSU would need a lot of help by teams in front of them having bad losses. Winning out isn’t close to enough. 1 loss big 10 and pac 12 champs would be in front of us. 1 loss Texas big 12 champion would very likely be in front of us. 1 loss Georgia would likely still be in front of us. I don’t blame you for dreaming up these scenarios, but the ole miss loss was likely too much to overcome with a down SEC.



2007 SAYS HELLO
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 12:15 pm to
I’ll say it again, all of our assumptions are tied with how the AP and Coaches Poll are ranking us. Ole Miss loss sucked, but is still a Top 10 loss potentially, with Florida State being a Top 3 loss at the beginning of the season. I truly believe there are a lot of high ranking teams that are not that good ahead of us.

After last year with TCU, how will the Playoff committee treat teams some of these teams? Blown out in a non competitive National Championship game, that is not going to be forgotten. I think the winner of the SEC will get in, even with 2 losses.

If LSU were to win it, we beat a Top 10 Bama team on the road, a Top 25 Florida team most likely, a Top 25 A&M team most likely and then a Top 3 Georgia team most likely. I would imagine we get in as a 4 seed.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8481 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 12:28 pm to
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The SEC champ will be in with 2 loses. Book it



No it wont. The problem is you would need a big win in the SEC game against an undefeated UGA to sway voters (A win over a one loss UGA wouldn't do it). At that point, a one loss 2 time defending champ UGA isn't going to be left out even if they did lose to a 2 loss LSU. So the CFP would then be looking at taking two SEC teams with a combined 3 losses between them.

There is no scenario where that happens. Well, I guess there is one in which FSU is undefeated and every other PAC-10 and Big 12 team has at least two losses but you would then have a scenario where its LSU and two teams it has already played.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26738 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:46 pm to
The BCS didn't give a damn about 2 losses which is how LSU got in. Last year many people would have put LSU in with 2 losses because of how other teams fared. People used to love thinking up the scenarios for how LSU gets in the big game, now all they do is complain. We are not out of it with only 2 losses. If people don't like the scenarios, don't enter the thread. Simple as that.

Now with that out the way, let me take a crack at this.

quote:

#3 seed Georgia 1 loss to LSU in SEC championship game (no possible way they are leaving out the team that won the last two national championships with only one loss to a red hot / possible heisman trophy winning team. They are seeded third to avoid the Ohio State rematch and to avoid LSU and Florida state rematch in the semi finals.
I actually think LSU would have a better case for the playoff than UGA. Sure UGA will have played and beat Ole Miss and Mizzu who are both likely 9 or 10 win teams, but that's it. Their schedule will consist of 3 top 15-17 teams in LSU, Mizz, Ole Miss, but LSU will likely have the #2 FSU, #5 UGA, #10-12 Bama, and #15/#16 Mizzu/Ole Miss. LSU would likely have the heisman trophy winner QB. LSU would be the SEC champ.

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PAC 12- no dominate team, a lot of games left for several to have two losses. Was losses to USC, Oregon beats Utah . USC beats Oregon. All would have 2 losses. Utah beats Washington 2 losses now for them. Washington beasts Oregon state gives Oregon state two losses.

I expect Washington to get upset by USC. USC is a wounded animal, and could upset Washington at home. Washington has a final four gauntlet with landmines all over. They lose 2 of those IMO.

Fingers crossed on Oregon St giving Oregon a goodbye loss. Don't know if they are keeping the rivalry yearly. Oregon also has to play Utah this week and have their own landmines

Utah has @ Washington and Arizona. They also play ASU, Colorado, and Oregon.

The whole Pac is going to defeat itself. That's what many are guessing.
quote:

Big 12- Oklahoma would have to go undefeated to get in. where would the loss come from on the remaining schedule: need a bad loss here either from OSU or TCU which not impossible. Or a loss in the Big 12 championship game.

Fingers crossed on Okie St beating Oklahoma and then losing to Texas in the Big 12 championship game. I feel like Texas is going to get upset. Whether by Iowa St on the road to end the regular season, or by Kansas St at home. We need them to lose and then beat Oklahoma in a rematch.



Final Thoughts

I'm not worried about the Pac, they'll cannibalize themselves. Michigan losing to Ohio St and not winning the championship puts them out even with one loss. Their schedule is horrendously weak and one ranked win vs Penn St might be it. FSU is in even with a loss. Texas, Oklahoma, and UGA are our real problems. I think Texas does get upset, but I'm not sure about Oklahoma. Even though I think they shouldn't, UGA will likely get in over us just because we have one more loss. If it comes down to UGA and LSU for the final spot, it is what it is. We did our best to turn it around.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 11:01 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18181 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:54 pm to
even assuming a 2-loss team can get into the playoff, it's WAAAAAY to early to worry about this. Far too many games left, for all the teams.

Conference championship week (and maybe the week before) is when you can start to model out scenarios. Anything before then is just wasted energy.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13214 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:42 pm to
1. Michigan-Ohio State winner at 13-0

2. Washington at 13-0

3. Fla State at 13-0

4. Oklahoma at 13-0

5. SEC Champion LSU at 11-2

75% of the US is salivating for the SEC to be left out of the CFP. LSU at 11-2 and SEC Champions is the way to get the SEC left out altogether. Most of America would rejoice and will be pulling for LSU all the way.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1587 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

1. Michigan-Ohio State winner at 13-0

2. Washington at 13-0

3. Fla State at 13-0

4. Oklahoma at 13-0

5. SEC Champion LSU at 11-2

75% of the US is salivating for the SEC to be left out of the CFP. LSU at 11-2 and SEC Champions is the way to get the SEC left out altogether. Most of America would rejoice and will be pulling for LSU all the way.




First of all, please produce an example of 4 power five teams finishing the season unbeaten. You can't because it's never happened. So please stop using this as a talking point. Someone or someones will fall.

That being said, LSU will only be considered if another power 5 champion finishes with 2 or more losses. We may get in over a 1-loss non-champion, but we are not getting in over any 1-loss champions.
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