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re: Playoff good as is? Or need to be expanded?

Posted on 11/16/18 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 1:57 pm to
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If its 8 then the 9th team is screwed.
If its 16 then the 17th team is screwed.
It never will end no matter the number allowed.
4 is fine.



If schedules were comparable. They aren't, however. Teams that lose a game or two but win several big ones should have a shot just as much as teams that win all of their games against poor to mediocre teams.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 2:49 pm to
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ETA: the good news is that once they go to 8 teams, with the Power5 champs getting auto bids, the committee will only decide teams 6-8, which should be more tolerable to most folks.


based on this we are no longer deciding on the BEST TEAMS .. we are distributing the trophies ... everyone gets one.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:45 pm to
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based on this we are no longer deciding on the BEST TEAMS .. we are distributing the trophies ... everyone gets one.

8 teams out of 129 - that's "everyone"???

Good lord, man.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36167 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:28 pm to
Four is fine.

Three playoff games are too many, four would be much worse.

Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4040 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:31 pm to
8 conference champions and at large.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64469 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:33 pm to
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Teams that lose a game or two but win several big ones should have a shot just as much as teams that win all of their games against poor to mediocre teams.


Yup its called March Madness
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3782 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:22 pm to
I think 6 is optimal. Gives all P-5 champs a slot and one--or two, if one of those conferences really sucks in a given year--at large spots in the playoff.

Simply give the top two seeds a bye, with the remaining four playing the week before the current semifinal games.
Posted by LSUVAFAN
Stephens City, VA
Member since Jan 2007
959 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:30 pm to
Sixteen team playoff would make the post season much more enjoyable to watch on TV rather than a meaningless bowl game. Eight team playoff is definitely needed now. Other than Alabama, the other 7 teams could compete against each other.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9704 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 5:55 pm to
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I want conference championships to matter. If you don’t win your conference, you shouldn’t compete for the natty.


This all looks good on the surface but you have to look at it deeper. If all conference champs rolled in 12-0 or 11-1 with a top 5 ranking great, but that doesnt happen.

Folks say, well, very rarely would an underdog win, really?
In 96, Did a 3 loss Texas team deserve to play for national title? How about a 3 loss A&M team in 98? Had LSU done enough in 2001 to play for the national title? How about that 9-4 2009 Nebraska team that was within a 50 yd fg of knocking off Texas? How about Pitt, Northwestern and Arizona state this year. Have they EARNED a chance to play for the national title? I hear people say devalue the regular. Letting THESE so-so teams in the playoff is what would devalue the regular season. Conference champs would always be a great team? The fact is it's right the opposite. We have a team every single year that wins it's conference that did not do much in the regular season.

Rece Davis had the best idea. If you want conference champs, do away with divisions and conference championship games. Play round robin and the champ goes but keep wildcards in.
Also, if I'm a playoff contender I NEVER play my starters in non conference games and absolutely would not play a p5 out of conference. What's there to gain? I also would sit my starters after I clinched. Bama would not play any starter pretty much the month of November this year. Same with UGA. How good would the UGA Auburn game be with backups? How about the Iron Bowl? Bama loses 26-6 in an "exhibition" game that means nothing. Conference champs devalues the season way more than folks think. In fact, I think it devalues it more than what we have. All the angst comes from 2011 and I get that but you rarely see 1 vs 2 in any conference for the championship. It's usually like number 3 vs number 13. I think Bama played Florida in 2016 and Florida wasn't even ranked.

If you just have conference champs, seriously, it could look like this this season.
Bama or Georgia
Pitt
Northwestern
Arizona St.

Now honestly, would anybody be happy with that?

What has to happen is there needs to be a playoff or not be a playoff. NCAA football is trying to have a playoff AND keep the polls and it simply doesn't work that way. Either go back to the polls or institute a basketball type playoff with 16 teams. Conference champs AND at large bids so we dont have unranked teams, who did nothing in the regular season, playing for the national title.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 6:05 pm
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