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re: Playing a catcher at RF

Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Cannon856
Watson
Member since Nov 2019
451 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:21 pm to
Neal was hitting .290 before he hurt his back. Went into a slump because of his injury before they shut him down for the year.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 9:22 pm
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
4220 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:26 pm to
after nearly 20 games, we are experimenting with position players playing out of position. Uh, ok!
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1102 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:26 pm to
Neal hit 209 against mostly non SEC pitching. Let that sink in. Then got hurt and didn’t play again.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66555 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 11:34 pm to
imagine trotting out last years stats like people don’t get better.

Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 12:13 am to
Yep. As a freshmen, he was decent and made good contact alot. I dont think any of these posters want to go down the roster and compare OPS and wRC for neal and his potential replacements
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66555 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 12:15 am to
the issue is if you look at our best 9 hitters 3 may be our catchers

and we need hitting.

So what do you do?
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1102 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 12:21 am to
Oh boy. The ole facts stuff strikes again. Facts undefeated vs emotions. Let me trot out some 2024 facts…..I mean STATS………..Neal was 0-10 his first 2024 SEC weekend. This means this past weekend. His 1 rbi was a bases loaded walk against Miss. State.

I’m sure Florida has Neal circled the same they did the middle of A&M’s lineup with 6-6 230lbs Laviolette and 6-2 225lbs Montgomery. Both projected first round picks. Montgomery 24. Laviolette 25.


But NEAL in the middle of our lineup
Can improve. Improve from what ??
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14812 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:59 am to
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Kling is the fly in the ointment. You sacrifice Kling's fielding capability by having to put an athlete catcher in RF, because the RF'er has to play left, so the LF'er can play CF to cover for Kling who can't hit a beach ball.


Yes, but as long as his defense doesn’t suffer Kling should never leave CF in SEC play. You can get away with a hitter in RF but not center.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 4:00 am
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:18 am to
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I’m sure Florida has Neal circled the same they did the middle of A&M’s lineup with 6-6 230lbs Laviolette and 6-2 225lbs Montgomery. Both projected first round picks. Montgomery 24. Laviolette 25.

Montgomery and laviolette are two of the best players in the country, hardly a fair comparison. But one is a year older than Neal and the other is 1.5 years older than Neal.
OPS for each player at age 19:
Montgomery 1.072
Brady Neal 1.150
Jace LaViolette 1.047
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4527 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:46 am to
quote:

Kling is the fly in the ointment. You sacrifice Kling's fielding capability by having to put an athlete catcher in RF, because the RF'er has to play left, so the LF'er can play CF to cover for Kling who can't hit a beach ball


Just a reminder that Kling still leads Pearson in RBI, Runs, Ob%, Walks, HBP, Stolen bases, and fielding.

Pearson has 4 HRs and still has single digit RBIs. If Kling is on the bench, why is Pearson in the lineup?
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 6:51 am
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1102 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:51 am to
So factoring in walks (OBP) by the 5-8 guy against mostly non sec pitching puts him on pace to be as good as or better than the A&M two. Last seasons non conference schedule was the weakest schedule by a power 5 school in the country. Gotcha. I’m sure Sully is shaking in his boots attempting to devise a pitching plan to slow ole Neal down.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:01 am to
I didnt use obp, i used ops, a better state for offensive success.

quote:

So factoring in walks (OBP) by the 5-8 guy against mostly non sec pitching puts him on pace to be as good as or better than the A&M two.

I didnt say it did, but you asked how he could improve. I provided you some reasons your examples of great players. Hell, i didnt even say Neal was going to become that this season.

quote:

Last seasons non conference schedule was the weakest schedule by a power 5 school in the country. Gotcha.

It wasnt and this has nothing to do with last seasons non conference schedule
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
5916 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Hes the smartest head coach lsu has ever had


I agreed with you right up until you said this stupid arse shite.
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
5230 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 am to
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Rest of OF Can’t hit ??? Neal hit 209 last year. That’s right 209 last year in 88 PA. Struck out 31 percent of those plate appearances. If you use the AB k model, the strike out rate is 41 percent. I know facts facts facts. Who should go away now? Again, imagine being Mic Paul who runs a 6.5 60 and was given around 10AB all of last year watching ole 209 avg. lofted swing hitting catcher Brady Neal jog out to RF.

Are you really trying to argue that Mic Paul should be in the lineup over Neal?
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
1102 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:19 am to
OPS is a combination of slugging percentage and on base percentage. Neal’s OBP was decent. Why? Pitiful non conference pitching to a 5-8 strike zone. Thus, Neal’s ops for last year was inflated.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:22 am to
We seem to miss play balls a lot.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66555 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:26 am to
Who do you want to replace him?

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278418 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:29 am to
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Flightnclouds


Reading your posts from last March & April explain a lot here.

Woof!!

Have a little pride in what you’re saying my friend
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