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Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:49 pm to 2geaux
I love what is happening to a few of our more questionable early departures. The system is correcting itself, mostly at the players expense. I think it should be tweaked where only 2nd round prone tions and better are allowed to be an early entry into the NFL. Of course, there would be other exemptions as well...but these guys, in many cases, are just being enticed by agents and end up being training camp dummy holders before being put out with no diploma (in a lot of cases) to fall back on.
I know there are 7th round type gems once in a while, but one could argue they would have been 3rd round steals a year later, with more seasoning and knowledge and strength.
Thers no easy answer, but there are way too many "freak" like decisions that are just wrong, and bad for the player.
I know there are 7th round type gems once in a while, but one could argue they would have been 3rd round steals a year later, with more seasoning and knowledge and strength.
Thers no easy answer, but there are way too many "freak" like decisions that are just wrong, and bad for the player.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:52 pm to GeeOH
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Thers no easy answer, but there are way too many "freak" like decisions that are just wrong, and bad for the player.
Dude seems like a slacker to me. There is another player on the team hungrier than him, ready to produce better results this fall.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:56 pm to Choctaw
Do you have to give effort or is it just natural for you to be a fricking douchebag?
I'm just curious, if you took LSU, Alabama, auburn, Uga and Florida and looked at their preseason goals, what would guess avg #1 goal would be?
We both know that answer.
Realistically, you think it's same for ole miss, state, uk, vandy, ark, and the rest of the teams?
We have a bigger stadium.
We have better recruiting rankings.
We are on tv more.
We have higher paid coaches.
To whom much is given much is expected.
I'm sure Les and his staff and team wouldn't want it another way..... Outside of course keeping experienced players around another year, which is what this thread is all about.
I'm just curious, if you took LSU, Alabama, auburn, Uga and Florida and looked at their preseason goals, what would guess avg #1 goal would be?
We both know that answer.
Realistically, you think it's same for ole miss, state, uk, vandy, ark, and the rest of the teams?
We have a bigger stadium.
We have better recruiting rankings.
We are on tv more.
We have higher paid coaches.
To whom much is given much is expected.
I'm sure Les and his staff and team wouldn't want it another way..... Outside of course keeping experienced players around another year, which is what this thread is all about.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:06 pm to 2geaux
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Why do players, who, more than likely won't be drafted or certainly aren't early rounders, continue to leave early. Is it money, bad advice, family? They would surely improve their draft stock with an additional year of college play.
Blame the NFLPA for that. I did not realize it until this year but these rookie contracts with an automatic fifth year option for top rounders actually encourages good players to leave college early and escape the fifth year and reach second contract or FA two years earlier... go figure.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:07 pm to TIGRLEE
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For me, I gauge seasons success on dec trip to Atlanta not named the check fil a bowl.
Same, but I also understand that winning the west every single year is unrealistic for anyone.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:08 pm to nicholastiger
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Making a NFL roster nets you about $400K/$500K a year. Not bad for a backup NFL player.
While that sounds awesome, most "backups" don't make it to their second contract which means they're out of the league well before their 3oth birthday. That means they have 50 or so years where they have to live off that rookie contract money. And to add to it they don't have and very likely won't go back for their college degree.
It's rare to have a career backup in the NFL outside of the QB position. Just because there are cheaper/younger replacements that come from the draft every year behind you.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:12 pm to TIGRLEE
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Do you have to give effort or is it just natural for you to be a fricking douchebag?
depends....it's Monday so it takes a little effort.
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I'm just curious, if you took LSU, Alabama, auburn, Uga and Florida and looked at their preseason goals, what would guess avg #1 goal would be?
We both know that answer.
Realistically, you think it's same for ole miss, state, uk, vandy, ark, and the rest of the teams?
We have a bigger stadium.
We have better recruiting rankings.
We are on tv more.
We have higher paid coaches.
To whom much is given much is expected.
I'm sure Les and his staff and team wouldn't want it another way..... Outside of course keeping experienced players around another year, which is what this thread is all about.
all great...except he asked about your expectations...not the teams.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:17 pm to lsu2006
I totally agree.
But all I'm saying is when we lose the number of undeclassman that we are losing, further lessens our chances.
But all I'm saying is when we lose the number of undeclassman that we are losing, further lessens our chances.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:18 pm to LSUChamp06
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Dude seems like a slacker to me. There is another player on the team hungrier than him, ready to produce better results this fall.
So you quit and go try and make it in an even tougher league? Makes no sense.
Why not just nut up, work on your weakness and win your starting job? Show the scouts your mental makeup. Dominate and they would notice.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:27 pm to GeeOH
Rarely do you see NC teams with the bulk of their players being lower classmen (Freshmen/sophomore).
Even with a few juniors thrown in, you still need that senior leadership. Its hard to replace.
I'm glad that LSU is an "NFL factory" and all but like an earlier poster said, I'm selfish and want the team to succeed.
I'm thinking how stacked we'd be if OBJ/JL and Hill were coming back coupled with the talent coming in here. Our QB's would def have some help and wouldn't necessarily be pressured into producing quickly.
Even with a few juniors thrown in, you still need that senior leadership. Its hard to replace.
I'm glad that LSU is an "NFL factory" and all but like an earlier poster said, I'm selfish and want the team to succeed.
I'm thinking how stacked we'd be if OBJ/JL and Hill were coming back coupled with the talent coming in here. Our QB's would def have some help and wouldn't necessarily be pressured into producing quickly.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:06 pm to TIGRLEE
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Fact is we will more than likely never win at the level we all want
If you haven't noticed, no school in the SEC or nationally has won more than LSU for the past nine years. So, your fact makes no sense, but that's normal for you.
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I hope I get proven wrong
Why should this time be any different than all the other times you have been proven wrong.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:11 pm to LSU Groupee
You suffer from inability to read and comprehend.
It's cool. Hang in there.
It's cool. Hang in there.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:12 pm to lsu2006
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Same, but I also understand that winning the west every single year is unrealistic for anyone.
One title game appearance/championship every 3 years. That's what the standard should be IMO. Especially, with the talent on our team.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:14 pm to Paul Allen
I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
Point I was making is that if that talent you speak leaves early it makes it that much more difficult to hit that one out of every three mark.
Point I was making is that if that talent you speak leaves early it makes it that much more difficult to hit that one out of every three mark.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:39 pm to LSU Groupee
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If you haven't noticed, no school in the SEC or nationally has won more than LSU for the past nine years.
Typical pumper living in the past....We're talking about the here and now. We continue to lose more and more players to the NFL every year. This is having an effect/hindering the possibility of winning a NC to a degree. If you don't think it is, then you're crazy. I know every school loses players, but we seem to lose a disproportional amount each year. That's the only point being made.
No one is disputing Les's record over the last 9 years.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:42 pm to RedTigerRulz
Don't bother.
I could post it's windy and raining in the middle of a hurricane and there's a collective group here that would disagree.
I've grown used to it.
I could post it's windy and raining in the middle of a hurricane and there's a collective group here that would disagree.
I've grown used to it.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:44 pm to TIGRLEE
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Don't bother. I could post it's windy and raining in the middle of a hurricane and there's a collective group here that would disagree. I've grown used to it.
Because you're a racist.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:04 pm to Matisyeezy
You go hard don't you?. 
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:08 pm to 2geaux
The majority of the player that stay, Boyd, Leinhart, etc, that see their stock drop isn't because of their on field performance. It is because of poor performance at the combines and pro day. They appeared to be much better than they were because they were surrounded by so much talent.
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