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re: Players extorting team
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:44 am to Stropdaddy
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:44 am to Stropdaddy
Players making lots of money is fine. But we’re in a system that's half pro half amateur where there is no expectation or commitment from the player. And that’s just not sustainable.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:45 am to Stropdaddy
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How did it get this out of hand.
I’m trying to think of what team other than LSU goes out publicly stating how much money they have to spend. Other teams will say they are going to get players from the portal but who else puts out a dollar figure?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:47 am to Stropdaddy
Fiat currency allows, nay ensures, this happening. Would you behave differently were you in their stead?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:51 am to Stropdaddy
It’s financially irresponsible for them not to enter the transfer portal every year. Blame the system not the players
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:59 am to Stropdaddy
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Kinda sucks. Think i will increase my fishing
Yeah! I have given up on basketball.
Football is on the bubble.
I don't believe it will survive under the present framework.
After over 60 yrs of watching sports, they are killing it.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:00 am to Stropdaddy
All things change. For better or worse.
The game we once knew where players held high regard for their respective schools and played for pride and love of team is somewhat gone.
Money dictates everything…….but kinda always has. I was told in the eighties when I reported to Fall camp “this is a business and you’re being compensated with the experience, room and board and an education.”
Money has definitely darkened it now though.
The game we once knew where players held high regard for their respective schools and played for pride and love of team is somewhat gone.
Money dictates everything…….but kinda always has. I was told in the eighties when I reported to Fall camp “this is a business and you’re being compensated with the experience, room and board and an education.”
Money has definitely darkened it now though.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:05 am to CharlesLSU
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All things change. For better or worse.
Correct. I can remember when NASCAR was big.
I suppose football will last until fans can no longer afford tickets.
Wonder what the interest will be if Kiffiin doesn't have LSU in the playoffs in a couple of years.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:23 am to Broski
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Jacob Hester has openly said he didn't like LSU until LSU came to in with a better playing time offering than Texas.
That's a lie.
He's on record saying " I had some big offers, I was committed to Texas, but I didn't have LSU, I wanted LSU"
Nick Saban saw Jacob at practice one day, offered and Hester flipped with the quickness.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:27 am to Stropdaddy
quote:Please do. Maybe this website won’t be flooded with dumb hicks saying the same thing over and over again.
Think i will increase my fishing
Man I can’t wait for this generation to turnover
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:43 am to lsusteve1
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Were you expecting some other outcome?
Expecting NO, hoping for something different. With all the smart people and all the lawyers we should have been able to add the guardrails. (Limitations, fines, taxes, severe fees for exceeding certain NiL payouts.)
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:02 am to Stropdaddy
Unpopular take:
Players are now 1-year contract employees. LSU is currently assessing individual NIL/rev share on all players; players are currently assessing their value on open market. This happens in every industry for anyone not tied to a long term enforceable contract.
Both sides are just acting in their own self interest and working within the stupid rules of the system.
Renegotiating a contract is not extortion. There are no threats, no force being applied, and no intimidation to compel schools or players to act against their will. You can hate the system, but it’s not extortion in any way.
Players are now 1-year contract employees. LSU is currently assessing individual NIL/rev share on all players; players are currently assessing their value on open market. This happens in every industry for anyone not tied to a long term enforceable contract.
Both sides are just acting in their own self interest and working within the stupid rules of the system.
Renegotiating a contract is not extortion. There are no threats, no force being applied, and no intimidation to compel schools or players to act against their will. You can hate the system, but it’s not extortion in any way.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:16 am to Mr Right
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College football is not like it used to be. Years ago, when talking about LSU players, you knew that 90% were from Louisiana. Today, we're lucky if 10% are from here. It's now in the era 0f "Rent a Player" for the most money! And that sucks!
Our roster…today:
55 from Louisiana
14 from Texas
10 from Georgia
7 from Florida
22 from another 6 or so states combined
Over half our our roster is from Louisiana, but continue whatever narrative you choose to believe.
Current LSU roster
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:24 am to Milo of Croton
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But we’re in a system that's half pro half amateur where there is no expectation or commitment from the player. And that’s just not sustainable.
I agree to a large degree with this thinking... However, being a business man for 40 years I can tell you these issues will be sorted out in relatively quick order through the language in the contracts.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:26 am to Stropdaddy
Human nature - once most people start getting welfare, they expect more.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:21 pm to KWL85
quote:You must be new here
Why be like this?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:29 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Unpopular take: Players are now 1-year contract employees.
Where do I start?
1. Actually, it was the National Labor Relations Board that filed a complaint against the NCAA stating athletes should be considered employees. What’s wrong with that you ask. Well, for starters, if that happens, then the Athletic Department will find itself negotiating with each individual team in their department for the Revenue Sharing money. Every year. And don’t get me started on benefits and a 401K…..
2. By the way, most posters here should stop typing NCAA and type “The Schools”. The NCAA is not a government agency. It is a private entity made up by the schools themselves to govern the activities related to college athletics. Anything they say and do is, technically, at the behest of the schools themselves. It is NOT an institution that “makes millions” every year.
3. Fact: in 2022 alone, about $1BILLION was given to student athletes in the name of NIL. Anyone thinking the Feds haven’t taken notice is fooling themselves. Part of the slowness seen is due to the multiple Federal agencies involved. IRS, FTC, NLRB etc etc. ALL were involved when members of Congress convened to try and help sort out the problems. Notice how that didn’t stop the NLRB from filing their complaint against the NCAA, er “The Schools”.
Sorry BornAndRaised, I realize only #1 applies to your post. I have so much more but as Drizz pointed out last night, it’s a long long discussion. If I understand correctly, the biggest issue was not the revenue sharing, it’s the NIL the Feds were frowning on. It’s primarily why the clearinghouse was created.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:35 pm to Stropdaddy
quote:Don't you love capitalism? Do you call when you walk in and ask for a raise "extortion"? Why the frick do grown arse men who have worked for decades and understand how capitalism and business work, get pissed because the younger generation understands how America runs and uses the same playbook?
How did it get this out of hand. Team sports are over in college. It's the I-ME system. Kinda sucks. Think i will increase my fishing
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:40 pm to Milo of Croton
Half amateur??where? All of them are paid professionals
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:44 pm to Stropdaddy
If the system allows kids to be free agents every year they’re 110% going to be free agents every year. If this system was in place 20 years ago it would’ve occurred then as well.
I HATE the system but until it’s changed they would be dumb not to given they’re playing a sport where your worth can be greatly diminished in the blink of an eye.
I HATE the system but until it’s changed they would be dumb not to given they’re playing a sport where your worth can be greatly diminished in the blink of an eye.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 12:45 pm
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