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Pivot Point Games: The Matchups That Will Shape the 2018 College Football Season
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:42 pm
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SEPT. 15
LSU at Auburn
Pivot point for: Both
Auburn’s second-half collapse against LSU last season was one of 2017’s most head-scratching results. The reasons make sense. LSU moved one more defender into the box in the second half and after second-and-two suddenly became second-and-eight, Auburn offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey—who would grow much more comfortable with quarterback Jarrett Stidham as the season progressed—fell into a playcalling rut.
But given the way the teams played the remainder of the season, the result still feels like an anomaly. This year, both teams open with tough out-of-conference opponents at neutral sites (Miami for LSU in Arlington, Texas, and Washington for Auburn in Atlanta). If both teams win those games, the pucker factor won’t be nearly as high when they meet on the Plains in Week 3. A loss for either team in the opener will turn this one into a referendum game.
For Auburn, a win would keep the defending SEC West champ moving toward another massive-stakes Iron Bowl.
For LSU, a win might change the Ed-Orgeron-is-on-the-hot-seat narrative that has grown popular but makes little sense unless this season is an utter disaster. (It’s more likely athletic director Joe Alleva is on the hot seat and Orgeron gets a chance to recruit LSU back to where the Tigers want to be no matter what happens this season.) Going 2–0 against Auburn would reframe Orgeron’s tenure on the fly.
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NOV. 3
Alabama at LSU
Pivot point for: Alabama
I listed Georgia’s visit to LSU as a potential trap game last week because it’s tough to imagine anyone penciling a visit to Baton Rouge as a win (even though that seems to be what everyone is doing with that Georgia game).
Alabama players and coaches will never get caught assuming they’ll win in Tiger Stadium. The Tigers have simply played them too tough there through the years.
Two years ago, it took a Jalen Hurts touchdown run to finally allow Alabama to breathe. Four years ago, the Crimson Tide needed a dumb penalty from LSU and a pass to a tackle moonlighting as a tight end in overtime. Six years ago, Alabama needed that beautiful screen to T.J. Yeldon in the closing moments.
LSU hasn’t beaten Alabama since November 2011, but the Tigers have always made it an adventure in Baton Rouge.
Pivot Point Games: The Matchups That Will Shape the 2018 College Football Season
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:48 pm to Tiger Ree
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For LSU, a win might change the Ed-Orgeron-is-on-the-hot-seat narrative that has grown popular but makes little sense unless this season is an utter disaster. (It’s more likely athletic director Joe Alleva is on the hot seat and Orgeron gets a chance to recruit LSU back to where the Tigers want to be no matter what happens this season.)
Don't lie, the only reason you shared this is because of that quote.
Love clueless outsider opinions of our program.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:49 pm to Tiger Ree
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Ed-Orgeron-is-on-the-hot-seat narrative that has grown popular but makes little sense unless this season is an utter disaster. (It’s more likely athletic director Joe Alleva is on the hot seat and Orgeron gets a chance to recruit LSU back to where the Tigers want to be no matter what happens this season.)
Like I said, for some reason the media can ignore logic and reason just willy nilly.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:52 pm to Freauxzen
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Like I said, for some reason the media can ignore logic and reason
Hilarious that this would ever be typed on the Rant when talking about someone else.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:54 pm to Tiger Ree
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LSU moved one more defender into the box in the second half and after second-and-two suddenly became second-and-eight, Auburn offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey—who would grow much more comfortable with quarterback Jarrett Stidham as the season progressed—fell into a playcalling rut.
Yes, it must have been a rut. Or maybe the LSU defense started playing up to its potential and proved stout pretty much the rest of the season.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm to Tiger Ree
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It’s more likely athletic director Joe Alleva is on the hot seat
How so? It's not as if the significant concerns regarding Ogeron didn't exist BEFORE he was named HC. Yet, the BOS/ President clearly had no issue rubber stamping the AD's choice. Why, less then two years later, would the BOS/President reverse course on the AD and his decision? If O struggles are the BOS/President going to all of a sudden say "well damn. I guess everyone was right when they expressed concerns about hiring Ogeron"?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:57 pm to Tiger Ree
You don't think a coach that is woefully unqualified for the job, that lost to Troy at home and was blown out by Mississippi State, and delivered our worst recruiting class in 15 years, should be on the hot seat?
What are your expectations for our program?
I want him to kill it this year. I want him to win every game. I want to come on this website and admit I was wrong and tell everyone I'm a giant dumbass that knows nothing about football. Would make me so happy.
But if we're being objective, Orgeron's history + last season + last year's recruiting class (his "strength") = deserving of the hot seat.
He can get himself off the hot seat really quick though with a good season and finishing recruiting this year strong. A good season for this program is 10 wins in the regular season. 2-2 against the top 4, win the rest.
What are your expectations for our program?
I want him to kill it this year. I want him to win every game. I want to come on this website and admit I was wrong and tell everyone I'm a giant dumbass that knows nothing about football. Would make me so happy.
But if we're being objective, Orgeron's history + last season + last year's recruiting class (his "strength") = deserving of the hot seat.
He can get himself off the hot seat really quick though with a good season and finishing recruiting this year strong. A good season for this program is 10 wins in the regular season. 2-2 against the top 4, win the rest.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:58 pm to TheCaterpillar
Stfu
That “quote” is dead on.... regardless if you idiots like it or not.
That “quote” is dead on.... regardless if you idiots like it or not.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:59 pm to p&g
You don't think it makes sense that Orgeron is on the hot seat with our fans?
I guess you and I have different expectations for our program.
I guess you and I have different expectations for our program.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:04 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:they don’t mind mediocrity because O is one of them. Sad
guess you and I have different expectations for our program.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:07 pm to TheCaterpillar
So glad you pointed this out.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:24 pm to Tiger Ree
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Hilarious that this would ever be typed on the Rant when talking about someone else.
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Tiger Ree
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:29 pm to Tiger Ree
We catch Auburn early. That's the best time.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
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quote:
For LSU, a win might change the Ed-Orgeron-is-on-the-hot-seat narrative that has grown popular but makes little sense unless this season is an utter disaster. (It’s more likely athletic director Joe Alleva is on the hot seat and Orgeron gets a chance to recruit LSU back to where the Tigers want to be no matter what happens this season.)
Don't lie, the only reason you shared this is because of that quote.
Love clueless outsider opinions of our program.
Actually, I think that quote is spot on. If O starts 1-2, or does something else that gets the powers that be lined up against him, there is no way they let Alleva make the next hire. Unless Alleva goes early in the season, such that a new AD is in place by season's end, O will likely be back next year.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:01 pm to Alt26
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Yet, the BOS/ President clearly had no issue rubber stamping the AD's choice. Why, less then two years later, would the BOS/President reverse course on the AD and his decision? If O struggles are the BOS/President going to all of a sudden say "well damn. I guess everyone was right when they expressed concerns about hiring Ogeron"?
For starters, about half the BOS is new since the Orgeron hiring. So it was the previous board that rubber stamped the hire.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:54 pm to Wayne Campbell
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For starters, about half the BOS is new since the Orgeron hiring. So it was the previous board that rubber stamped the hire.
I could be wrong, but I think only 5 of the 17 members have been appointed AFTER Ogeron got the job. Now, that certainly could be enough force big changes (if necessary). But now the majority of the board was appointed by Gov. Edwards and you would presume share his same sentiments towards LSU, i.e. that LSU is "broke" and in desperate need of more tax dollars. That kind of general perception of the school/system as a whole may not be all that conducive to green-lighting a full scale (and expensive) retooling of the athletic dept.
When Emmert was hired as Chancellor in 1999 LSU found itself looking for a new head football coach. It's well documented that Joe Dean tried to nickle and dime the negotiations with Saban until Emmert came in and told Dean to stop the bullshite and just pay Saban his asking price. That asking price was huge at the time Saban was hired, but Emmert believed having a strong football/athletic program could be an overall benefit to the school. What followed was the greatest era of LSU football in school history.
Fair or not, I just don't see F. King, Alleva or John Bell Edwards having that mindset. Alleva has already hired, and overpaid, two coaches that no other major schools wanted. F. King is on record lamenting the rise in football coaching salaries...even though he is the president of one of the few colleges in the nation with a fully self-funded athletic dept. Edwards even stupidly suggested that LSU football could be done away with completely if the school didn't keep getting the tax dollars it sought.
FWIW I hope Ogeron has a great season and makes all of this discussion moot. But right now I just don't see any of (or at least enough of) the decision makers at LSU really on board with doing whatever it takes to make the football program as successful as possible.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:03 pm to Tiger Ree
Great post Ree! I agree completely, this season will be shaped by the Auburn and the Alabama game. Let’s see how O does against similar caliber teams.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:11 pm to Jwho77
quote:He’s referring to them not calling pass plays.
Yes, it must have been a rut. Or maybe the LSU defense started playing up to its potential and proved stout pretty much the rest of the season.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 4:13 pm to Tiger Ree
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Four years ago, the Crimson Tide needed a bullshite penalty against LSU and a pass to a tackle moonlighting as a tight end in overtime.
Fixed that for him
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