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Pitching question
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:16 am
So many walks. Are our pitchers not finding the strike zone AT ALL, OR are they not finding the spot they are being told (ex the outside edge or the inside edge)? Especially after ball 3.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:25 am to lsuag88
when we’re missing 3-0 it’s because we can’t throw a strike to save our lives
that’s usually the pitch everyone just throws for a strike if they can because they’re going to be taking 19/20 times
when we’re missing 3-1 and pretty much every other count we’re trying to hit spots.
Jay has said you can’t just go up there and not try and throw competitive pitches because those get hit hard at this level.
that’s usually the pitch everyone just throws for a strike if they can because they’re going to be taking 19/20 times
when we’re missing 3-1 and pretty much every other count we’re trying to hit spots.
Jay has said you can’t just go up there and not try and throw competitive pitches because those get hit hard at this level.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:41 am to lsuag88
Most of the guys last night aren't coming in on the weekends very often because they can't throw strikes consistently. Its fine in a midweek against Southern to get them some reps, but you can't have that when you're playing a loaded SEC team. The bullpen has been really shaky this season.
Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.
Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:00 am to Triple Bogey
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Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.
we literally have not had a Sunday starter since Jay has been here
If moore really is back in 2 weeks we’re better off than most seasons.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:36 am to lsuag88
Yes, Yeskie is instructing them to walk people. That’s why he is paid the big bucks! The powerhouse!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:40 am to lsuag88
The key is getting ahead in the count early. If you have a batter down 1-2, you can make him look silly at what he will swing at to stay alive. But, it's easier said than done.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:41 am to lsuag88
No excuse, but last night, that strike zone was super tight. There were several pitches called balls that should have easily been strikes. Those ones that result in B4 hurt bad...
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:47 am to Lester Earl
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Yes, Yeskie is instructing them to walk people. That’s why he is paid the big bucks! The powerhouse!
April Fools!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:47 am to Triple Bogey
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Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.
Here we go with this fricking BS talking point again
Every
Single
Year
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:50 am to lsuag88
Most highly rated guys that come to LSU have never really had to hit spots before. When you throw 90+ and have a decent curveball and changeup, it doesn’t take much to get high school batters out.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:01 am to Triple Bogey
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Most of the guys last night aren't coming in on the weekends very often because they can't throw strikes consistently
The fix for that is throwing in-game situations. It's why we have midweek games and one reason why the Majors have the preseason.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:03 am to lsuag88
The short answer to that is Jay recruits guys who throw upper 90s. These pitchers tend to struggle with locating more than the guy topping out at 91.
The longer answer is that the way we call pitches doesn't allow room for error. By the end of the season, Jay and Yeskie will have narrowed down the reliable arms, and only those guys will get meaningful work. Our pitching always improves.
The hardest part about watching this team is reminding yourself that Jay Johnson isn't coaching only to win today. Jay is constantly doing things that will help the team later this season and next season. He's seeing who can perform in which situations, and those are buttons he will be pushing at the end of the season. At the same time, he's getting work to the guys we need next year. As bad as Schmidt looked most of last year, Johnson made sure he not only had experience in SEC games but also pitched in the regionals and super regionals. Those things helped Schmidt be the dude he is right now.
The longer answer is that the way we call pitches doesn't allow room for error. By the end of the season, Jay and Yeskie will have narrowed down the reliable arms, and only those guys will get meaningful work. Our pitching always improves.
The hardest part about watching this team is reminding yourself that Jay Johnson isn't coaching only to win today. Jay is constantly doing things that will help the team later this season and next season. He's seeing who can perform in which situations, and those are buttons he will be pushing at the end of the season. At the same time, he's getting work to the guys we need next year. As bad as Schmidt looked most of last year, Johnson made sure he not only had experience in SEC games but also pitched in the regionals and super regionals. Those things helped Schmidt be the dude he is right now.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:30 am to jasonbr1975
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No excuse, but last night, that strike zone was super tight. There were several pitches called balls that should have easily been strikes. Those ones that result in B4 hurt bad...
The ump was really squeezing Noot
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:41 pm to lsuag88
Mainly spots. In college and the pros, if you put a fastball down the pipe it is going 350' plus the other direction.
These kids have to work the edges of the zone, which leaves small margin for misses.
Its just tough. Thats what separates elite guys, from guys with good stuff.
These kids have to work the edges of the zone, which leaves small margin for misses.
Its just tough. Thats what separates elite guys, from guys with good stuff.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:03 pm to lsuag88
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So many walks. Are our pitchers not finding the strike zone AT ALL, OR are they not finding the spot they are being told (ex the outside edge or the inside edge)? Especially after ball 3.
JMHO but I have believed umps squeeze the strike zone in pre conference games. No data but just opinion. It seems that once conference starts either the pitchers are more in a groove or the umps are more lenient and consistent.
Yes, we are in conf and still walking a lot of people...
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:14 pm to lsuag88
You have swerved into a probable reason for why we are walking so many. The short answer is that it is execution.
It’s partly because pitchers have good and bad days. We have a fair amount of inexperience that adds to control issues. The pitching coach calls a pitch and location based on analytics from previous at bats by the hitter. When the pitch and location called are a small window, execution can be a problem. Loosen the window frame and it could give the hitter an advantage.
A proving ground that this is whats going on is when it is 3-0 and the pitcher puts one center cut, to me, means he can’t execute what’s called. If he misses or misses badly, to me, it means he is having trouble executing any pitch.
It’s partly because pitchers have good and bad days. We have a fair amount of inexperience that adds to control issues. The pitching coach calls a pitch and location based on analytics from previous at bats by the hitter. When the pitch and location called are a small window, execution can be a problem. Loosen the window frame and it could give the hitter an advantage.
A proving ground that this is whats going on is when it is 3-0 and the pitcher puts one center cut, to me, means he can’t execute what’s called. If he misses or misses badly, to me, it means he is having trouble executing any pitch.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:01 pm to lsuag88
My question is, why are we having this same conversation every year seems like with LSUs pitching staff? Will they ever find a group of pitchers that can consistently pound the strike zone?
I feel like every year we talk about how deep the pitching staff is only to realize we can only count on 2 or 3 relievers out of about 10 or 12 at most.
I feel like every year we talk about how deep the pitching staff is only to realize we can only count on 2 or 3 relievers out of about 10 or 12 at most.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 4:39 pm to chadr07
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My question is, why are we having this same conversation every year seems like with LSUs pitching staff? Will they ever find a group of pitchers that can consistently pound the strike zone?
I feel like every year we talk about how deep the pitching staff is only to realize we can only count on 2 or 3 relievers out of about 10 or 12 at most
Literally every college every year has this issue. They don't pound the zone. You pick apart the very edges as much as you can trying to get batters to chase bad stuff, and make weak contact.
Every kid on staff could "pound the zone" and SEC hitters would pound it right off the score boards.
If you throw above 85 in any level of HS and have at least one offspeed pitch you can absolutely throttle everybody you face in HS aiming down the middle and letting it rip.
These are 18-19 year olds coming in, and in most cases getting taught how to actually pitch vs throw for the first time. It takes a while to develope. But every year we get better towards end of the season- thats the proof that the LSU staff is doing their job.
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