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re: PFF College - Joe Burrow is ready to lead LSU once again this season

Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:55 pm to
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Yeah, I don't hate the coach or LSU so of course it would seem that way to you.




I hate LSU?

And no I do not hate coach O. I don't think you understand what hate means. Skeptical at first? Hell yes. He has done a good job and is set up for a big year, I'm excited.

Stop being so dramatic.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:14 pm to
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And no I do not hate coach O


Yeah, I can feel the love.

Tigerbait357:
"Georgia- hires Kirby
Florida- hires Mullen
MSU- hire Moorhead
Arkansas- hires Morris
Tennessee- Pruitt

All of these hires had backgrounds of success at previous programs as a coordinator or head coach

But we just move to promote our DL coach who was the worst coach in Ole Miss history that couldn't even make a list for a Syracuse interview"





"There are hell of a lot of coaches who were a thousand times more qualified then what we hired"
Is this skepticism? I don't know the difference between hatred and wonder.




"Coach O never should have been an option in the first place"
More skepticism or pure love? Hard to tell the difference.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:23 pm to
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In all seriousness, I've said I was going to try this on many occasions. Kudos to you for doing the work. I love having data that's not available to anyone else .

Did you only download LSU datasets or all schools?


I’ve got play-by-play for all schools, comfortably dating back to 2009 right now.

I also have all AP Poll data (huge shoutout to College Poll Archive).

Working on getting all game scores since 1869 finalized. The data is relatively sound dating back to 1940-ish. Have some more work to do for the rest.

Really want to dig into the recruiting and betting stuff soon.

Anything that anybody is curious about, I can try to pull some numbers for you (ex: called run play % in the red zone on 1st down in 2018 is something I recently shared).
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 11:34 pm
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
78706 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:26 pm to
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I used to do the PBP for baseball games. That is why my post count is so high


When did you do that, Ree? I’ve been doing baseball BPB since 2015, but this is the first I’ve heard about you doing it before. To be fair, I’ve only been here since 2014.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:30 pm to
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When did you do that, Ree? I’ve been doing baseball BPB since 2015, but this is the first I’ve heard about you doing it before. To be fair, I’ve only been here since 2014.


I couldn't tell you the year(s). I also did some football games long before the scoreboard was ever created. I did some softball games this year and last.

You can check my post history. It should all be in there.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 11:32 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:45 pm to
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So you think I should alter my day to do research for someone who is too lazy to use Google?


Nope. You should just half-arse it like you do in every other thread you start. And then when people start asking questions, like asking for a little more information to clarify what you're trying to say, start hurling insults at those people.

By your standards, you've done a bang-up job in this thread.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:47 pm to
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I’ve got play-by-play for all schools, comfortably dating back to 2009 right now

Damn son, do you have a job

quote:


Really want to dig into the recruiting

Recruiting data should be pretty easy to get I would think

quote:

Anything that anybody is curious about, I can try to pull some numbers for you (ex: called run play % in the red zone on 1st down in 2018 is something I recently shared).

trust me, I'm already thinking of shite

I'm more interested in talent/experience comparisons to opponents this season...by position group of course . But you would need recruiting rankings and roster data/depth charts for that. I find that stuff fascinating
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 11:53 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:57 pm to
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Damn son, do you have a job


I was thinking the same thing.

He sounds like he's pretty serious about what he's doing. Seems like a lot of work.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:23 am to
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You should have spent this time doing a Google search for the lazy frick and providing the information to him.



Because that’s your job since you brought the information. I have no personal stake in this but you do with your reputation. If you don’t care that your reputation is tarnished by bringing in information without all the facts to back it up, then that’s cool. That is your choice.

You make a post with incomplete information, claim you don’t give a frick if people accept your information as fact or not, yet continue to argue in the thread with said people. Somethings not adding up. Either you know the information you provided is in fact cherry picked and thus doesn’t provide an accurate representation or you do care that people just accept your information as a positive claim. Otherwise there is no legitimate reason why you would continue to argue with people in this thread. If you didn’t care if they accepted your claim or not, you’d just post the claim and move on. If you did care that they accept your claim you would provide the further clarification requested unless said clarification would undermine your claim.


There is a 3rd option, though I don’t really want to call you insane, but..... you know what they say the definition of insanity is.....
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:25 am to
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No one has discredited the PFF data - but several have attempted to marginalize it (unsuccessfully)


It’s not unsuccessful if the data was in itself marginalized from the beginning.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:27 am to
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It is a lot of fun.


Except you seem to be the only one posting like your blood pressure is up over this. Maybe that’s “fun” to you. Who am I to judge? But hey, dog. If you ever want to calm that shits down, I know where you can get some mad arse dopes. Kno’m sayin...
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:28 am to
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He sounds like he's pretty serious about what he's doing. Seems like a lot of work.
I enjoy the hell out of analytics, especially when it's not work related lol. But I damn sure don't have that much time on my hands.

Props to that dude
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:30 am to
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J2thaROC


You be figured him out...



Moral of the story...stats require context. Ree was scared to discredit his own post, that's where the "Google it yourself" comes from.
This post was edited on 8/13/19 at 12:38 am
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:31 am to
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I'd rather be a simpleton than obsessed with another man.

You don’t say?

Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:34 am to
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Damn son, do you have a job


Once I can get the endpoints corrected, all of the heavy lifting is done automatically. The toughest part is making sure the data is organized properly, since, in some instances, I have multiple sources going into one database.

I can’t lie, it gets wild at times.

But once it’s all setup and you can make cool stuff like this:
Wins in AP Poll Era

It all feels somewhat worth it.

Other times I’m thinking “wtf are you doing bro?”
This post was edited on 8/13/19 at 12:36 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:40 am to
Oh my lort, that's awesome.

You need to go work at ESPN...youre obsessed

Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32133 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 12:42 am to
Major props, man! That's a great job and very well put together!


Nice job!


Great username by the way!


Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5802 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:10 am to
Thanks guys. Appreciate that

Also, JUST finished getting some high school player recruiting data (since 2005) extracted.

For fun...

247 Average Recruit Rating Since 2005
1. USC: 0.9161
2. Ohio State: 0.9147
3. Texas: 0.9002
4. Georgia: 0.8959
5. Florida: 0.8957
6. Alabama: 0.8946
7. LSU: 0.8886
8. Florida State: 0.8868
9. Notre Dame: 0.8855
10. Oklahoma: 0.8809

Most 5* WRs Since 2005
LSU: 6
USC: 6
Clemson: 4
Alabama: 4

I haven't done any error checks on this set. Go easy.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:22 am to
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 1:29 am to
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Same cast of characters, every single thread


Agreed. They are what they are...

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