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Peter King (SI writer) Comments on Orgeron Situation

Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:51 pm
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:51 pm
Every Monday morning, Peter King puts out a long-form article called "Football Morning in America" that talks about all of the headlines in the NFL. I find it to be one of the better weekly articles out there and has a lot of good stuff. Anyway, he commented on his thoughts on the LSU/Ed Orgeron split and I think he really hit home with his comments. It was interesting to read how someone who is not heavily involved with college football (he covers NFL) thinks about what went down.

And after reading this, the more I think about it, Orgeron's comment at the press conference about "being able to afford a hamburger" or whatever he said... holy hell, what a piece of work. Good riddance.

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I think I have a thought or two about college football today. Particularly, LSU coach/coach-about-to-be-fired/mailing-it-in-for-the-rest-of-the-year Ed Orgeron. He will not coach LSU after this season. He and the university have agreed that he is out in two months, and that he will be paid the remainder of his contract over the next four years regardless whether he works anywhere else. LSU will pay him $16.8 million to not coach. That’s not particularly outrageous in the coaching business. But here some evidence that Orgeron is luckiest man on the face of the earth because of one decision he made in 2018—admitting Joe Burrow to play at LSU. Some facts to consider:

• Orgeron went 10-25 at his first head-coaching job, Ole Miss, from 2005-07, then took a year to address some personal demons.

• After bouncing around at various jobs, he got the LSU head-coaching job in 2016 and went 15-6 in his first two seasons.

• With Burrow on board, LSU went 10-3 in 2018 and 15-0 in 2019. Burrow, Justin Jefferson and J’Marr Chase led the team to one of the great runs in college history.

• Since the national championship win led by the greatest quarterback season in college history, LSU is 9-9.

The school said last week that it will seek a new coach for 2022 after the season. Orgeron, who had not met with his coaching staff for at least the first two full days after the announcement of his departure, said he will not coach next year. He did say he will be fine financially. “I think I’m gonna have enough money to buy me a hamburger,” Orgeron said.

Gross.

Joe Burrow got a lot of this partnership. Orgeron gave him a starting job in the SEC. Burrow gave LSU a championship. I doubt Burrow even thinks about it, but I know how I’d feel if I were in Burrow’s shoes, making nothing while this coach makes $17 million because his team went 15-0 in 2019 and won a title with the greatest performance by a quarterback in college history.

There are so many things about pro football that are unjust. Currently, Roger Goodell’s soft treatment of Washington owner Dan Snyder leads that category. I won’t say Orgeron getting the gift of Burrow, then presiding over the decline of a great program and collecting $16.8 million while watching it is as bad. But this Orgeron thing is crazy.


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This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:53 pm to
Peter King is a huge bitch
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4336 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Peter King is a huge bitch



He can be pretty cringe at times with his far-left persona but I do enjoy the column.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:54 pm to
people at the top getting paid for work via below them... shocking stuff peter. truly...
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52780 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:55 pm to
But he’s correct here. O is the luckiest person on Earth.
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2303 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:56 pm to
The pass you get when you win a NC

I do feel we may be better off cutting bait right now but ramifications on recruiting may be negative since we won't hire anyone till end of post season....regardless i do feel he has mailed it in and not doing what he is paid to do....and collecting lump sum on top of it. Pathetic indeed
Posted by sertorius
Third Plebeian
Member since Oct 2008
1509 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:56 pm to
Orgeron gets some credit for landing Burrow and assembling the team that created that offense. He scouted, recruited, and sold the program. For heaven's sake, I see that he's struggling, and that everyone thinks that we deserve better, but give the man credit where it's due. Burrow did not go somewhere else. If Orgeron is so bad in every way, Burrow would have never come here.

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:56 pm to
Thanks for the rehashing of what we already knew Peter King
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:00 pm to
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Peter King is a huge bitch, but in this case is dead-nuts on point

FIFY
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42499 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:00 pm to
He got one thing right, soft on Washington owner Snyder while making Payton sit out an entire year
Belichick should have been made to sit out an entire season as well for his cheating habits
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158757 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:01 pm to
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Orgeron, who had not met with his coaching staff for at least the first two full days after the announcement of his departure,
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:04 pm to
Burrow turned out to be a great QB. But it's revisionist history to say that should have been obvious in 2018. Hell, Urban Meyer, who by that time had won three NCs in his career passed on Burrow to name Haskins as his starting QB. And it's not like Burrow was great in 2018. He was good. He made some plays. But he was just an average QB in his first year at LSU. It's when Burrow full potential was unlocked by Brady implementing a modern offensive approach that LSU exploded.

Les was fired not because he was objectively "bad". It was because he REFUSED to make the necessary adjustments to take LSU from a really good team to a championship team. But when he was fired the LSU program wasn't broken. There were just a few parts that needed to be upgraded. O was kept on with the promise he would do just that. The defensive coaching staff remained in place. The offensive group was overhauled (along with the special teams). It took maybe a year too long to get it right, but it worked in 2019.

The downfall was when LSU relied on O to build his OWN program...not just make the necessary adjustments to previous regime to take the car from running a 45 second lap to a 40 second lap.

There is a reason Orgeron has had some success as an interim coach. It's because much of the program is already in place when he takes over and all he has to do is be a "new voice" in the room and duct tape the leaks. When he's allowed to build the house from scratch it collapses very quickly.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:06 pm to
Peter King is a liberal **** sucker
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32698 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Orgeron, who had not met with his coaching staff for at least the first two full days after the announcement of his departure

LMAO and we wonder why the Ole Miss game went the way it did
Posted by Ferriday7
Member since Sep 2021
138 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:08 pm to
Means he’s not lying.??
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158757 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:09 pm to
yeah that uhh needs to be getting more attention
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:10 pm to
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yeah that uhh needs to be getting more attention


Do they mean that he just did not do anything with the staff on Monday or Tuesday last week as if we didn't have a game to prepare for? He needs to be told to gtfo.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54547 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:11 pm to
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The school said last week that it will seek a new coach for 2022 after the season. Orgeron, who had not met with his coaching staff for at least the first two full days after the announcement of his departure, said he will not coach next year. He did say he will be fine financially. “I think I’m gonna have enough money to buy me a hamburger,” Orgeron said.
. Good lord lol
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7928 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:13 pm to
Piling on
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:14 pm to
Most media members are people who never could make it in sports.

So, they pretend.
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