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re: Perkins comments at the weekly presser

Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:15 am to
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5163 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:15 am to
That's a marginal difference. But yeah, gains and improvement. That's the goal in these scenarios. But you also don't want to go overboard on the gains if your game is speed and quickness.
Arden Key was the quickest LSU DE I had ever seen in 2016. Then it was too much too fast, and he wasn't the same player. That was extreme. But the point is, Perkins can be an elite rusher now, and gain and improve over time, as HR did.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
75865 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:21 am to
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Now if he can figure out the QB position


Get Nuss in there as the starter and we are set.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39358 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:23 am to
Perkins was at 205 in his senior year. He doesn’t have a big frame. He’s a narrow body
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59072 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:23 am to
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he did. their whole gameplan was short passes screens and draws.

So you think this was exclusively because of Perkins...not a blue chip DL going against the GSU offensive line? You think without Perkins they just drop back and sit in the pocket.

people see what they want to see I suppose.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75838 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:39 am to
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So you think this was exclusively because of Perkins...not a blue chip DL going against the GSU offensive line? You think without Perkins they just drop back and sit in the pocket.


do you think they didn’t co aider him when they made the gameplan?

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people see what they want to see I suppose.


We saw the same thing. a gameplan designed to neutralize and take advantage of our pass rush.

Perkins being our best pass rusher.
Posted by WDAIII
Member since Aug 2020
4205 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:44 am to
Wow Brian's got a brain!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59072 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 11:48 am to
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do you think they didn’t co aider him when they made the gameplan?
Not particularly.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34422 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:07 pm to
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Will run away from him unless House does a better job of disguising him.

Like wearing a different jersey?
Or maybe a fake mustache and glasses?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:16 pm to
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people say stuff like this and the really mean “we should only pass rush him”

He's literally only been a positive as an edge-spy combo.

In a more traditional role, he's been a negative player not above replacement-level
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452018 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Is this some new position?

Off Ball LB.

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Wasted crucial time developing what? His pass rush skills?

That or playing OBLB

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. That will never happen by him just lining up on the edge and rushing every time. They know they have that if all else fails.


He clearly needs to learn how to play edge, if that's his final spot.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40324 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:31 pm to
I guess weak side LB is the same as off ball LB?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75838 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:32 pm to
so they didn’t consider our best player on defense when making their gameplan?

you believe that?

ok. sure

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75838 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Arden Key was the quickest LSU DE I had ever seen in 2016. Then it was too much too fast, and he wasn't the same player. That was extreme. But the point is, Perkins can be an elite rusher now, and gain and improve over time, as HR did.


Like I said, the move may be him bulking up and player Jack linebacker
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:06 pm to
What was odd about the FSU game was that it was almost exclusively a spy position. He isn't big enough to be a linebacker to stop the run, but I think other facets of an MLB he could be good at, such as picking up the RB out of the backfield, backside pursuit, but I'm not sure on his coverage skills for a TE.

An MLB has so many responsibilities and has to make decisions instantly based on what he sees the offense is doing and what the defense has called. If you haven't done this, that is a tall task. He is used to just going after QB's.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4071 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:15 pm to
The biggest part of MLB is really knowing how defense works and being able to dissect the offense. Perkins still has some time before he gets that but you can’t rely on athleticism. For OLB, it’s more just let you be an athlete in open space rather than taking lineman blocking down on you or dropping back into coverage.

Let him exceed and show his athleticism. NFL will prioritize this rather than him being eaten up by line man or getting lost in coverage
Posted by Pahnew
Member since Apr 2008
5374 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:26 pm to
At least the coaches realized they mistake quickly and made the move. I wish they would have noticed after one half of Fla St game it wasn't working. I know some other coaches with massive stubborn egos, who won't have admitted their mistake so quickly
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
6019 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:37 pm to
LSU is doing a terrible job at trying to isolate Perkins in pressuring the QB. He is simply running straight ahead into a blocker and is getting blocked most of the time. This is no way to use a talented rusher like Perkins, but that is the way all our defenders rush.
It is like they have never seen or heard of stunts, or rushing off the back side of a tackle or DE, where the lineman has to make a decision or gets pulled out of the way to make room for the blitzer to get a direct run at the QB. No loop around to find a rush hole...nothing to free Perkins to use his speed in a gap. This is why I am so down on or D coaches. Zero imagination ...just the same plodding into a olineman and trying to beat him before a pass is thrown. We have seen how that works out....DE's have zero sacks that I have seen, Perkins has zero sacks that I have seen, and 99% of the time the has ample time to find a receiver running open against our deep zone. What a gift to the opposing QB's.
If something doesn't seriously change starting this week, LSU will only win games in high scoring shootouts. I'm not sure we are capable of winning all of those.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5912 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:37 pm to
I agree Pahnew. Glad they realize this, I hate that it took an FSU loss to come to that conclusion. Was he really impressive in practice to warrant this new position against FSU.
Did people see this move to MLB before it the season started. I didn't remember hearing about it.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12065 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:21 pm to
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and Perkins doesn’t measure up.


He measured up last year.
Posted by Soft_Parade
North Carolina Coast
Member since Sep 2005
2554 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:29 pm to
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Somehow a rant myth that Brian Kelly is hardheaded and doesn’t change things
He dispatched Polian swiftly. However, you don’t want to have a constant stream of staffing or personnel changes to make during or after the season. Kelly will find himself at a crossroads at the end of this season with Denbrock. If he stick with him, then he needs to go with a different style QB. If he wants a passing and running threat QB, then he needs to find a replacement.
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