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re: Per SI: Fulton appeal denied - Will seek waiver to get on the field

Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:15 pm to
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Yeah, they can. What part of “they make the rules” are you not following?


Like any organization, there are established bylaws. The NCAA is not setup to enforce criminal law its setup to enforce fair play. They don’t make up rules as they go. This rule and it’s punishment existed long before Fulton registered with the NCAA.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11707 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:15 pm to
I do agree that the kids with stolen guns should get suspended, much longer than Fulton. But, you can’t try to cheat a drug test and expect it to go over well.

If the NCAA lifted the ban, that’s basically them telling every other kid to attempt to cheat his drug test. Would be a very bad look.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11790 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:16 pm to
What is this waiver supposed to do?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:16 pm to
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I do agree that the kids with stolen guns should get suspended


LSU suspended him, not the NCAA.
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:17 pm to
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He attempted to cheat a steroids test because he thought it was for weed. You're right there was no crime committed which is exactly why this is going to be a set up for not equally treating everybody the same. The institution in charge is completely responsible for being logical and rational regardless of what a rule States it's their job to interpret it based on circumstance.

The NCAA, to me, is becoming very inconsistent. Let's see their title 9 investigation, or lack the of.


This is exactly right. Any good lawyer can take this shite and kill them. Again, I hope that people with money to burn will take it to them and lets see what a judge would say. Someone needs to get the balls to do it.

You have players in the NFL getting a 4 game suspension for testing POSITIVE. This is a young kid that was barely 18 and you are taking 2 years of his play away for "thinking" about cheating and then ultimately testing negative. It's excessive and there is no judge in this country that wouldn't agree.

I'll donate $500.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15792 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:17 pm to
He would have done better with guns and weed in a park in Monroe!
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27860 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:18 pm to
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Even if the test was for the 5 panel drugs dude should’ve just pissed in the cup. The NCAA isn’t suspending you a year for testing positive for pot. Only half a season.


Well LSU has some awful people in the support staff positions (see compliance). No doubt this could have been communicated to him better. If the kid was working with all of the info he’d have been fine.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11707 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:18 pm to
I believe we are referring to Bama, buddy.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:19 pm to
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I believe we are referring to Bama, buddy.


The NCAA had no involvement there either, buddy.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11707 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:20 pm to
Also hard to suspend someone when charges are dropped..

Kid tried to cheat a drug test. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:20 pm to
The NCAA can’t enforce criminal law.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11707 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:21 pm to
Cheating a drug test administered by the NCAA, but NCAA shouldn’t suspend him. Lmao get real
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2623 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:22 pm to
I disagree. If the NCAA would have looked at this and realized this penalty didn't fit the crime and let him off on time served then readdress the punishment for said violation. I believe it would have been a good look for NCAA. A 6 game or season suspension is plenty to deter a player from making that mistake. No player would risk rhat length of time. I think the NCAA missed a chance to fix their image a little, and they didn't.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:23 pm to
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Cheating a drug test administered by the NCAA, but NCAA shouldn’t suspend him. Lmao get real


Break an NCAA rule, get the NCAA punishment. Break the law, get the law’s punishment. It’s not hard.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:24 pm to
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If the NCAA would have looked at this and realized this penalty didn't fit the crime


The NCAA is the organization that established the punishment for this rule infraction.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1919 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:25 pm to
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Cheating a drug test administered by the NCAA, but NCAA shouldn’t suspend him. Lmao get real


While I agree, I have yet to see a 2 yr. suspension issued by the NCAA.

Jim Boehiem got caught playing ineligible players over 5 yrs and only served a 9 game suspension.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2623 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:27 pm to
Really??? I had no idea. They could just easily change the punishment when they realized how ludicrous it is.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:27 pm to
Unbelievable
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:29 pm to
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Really??? I had no idea. They could just easily change the punishment when they realize his ludicrous it is.


I hate to tell ya but the NCAA is just being consistent with its established rule for this infraction.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1919 posts
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:32 pm to
Again while I know it’s a rule. This is the first instance that I’ve seen(did a little google search) a 2yr suspension on a single player.
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