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re: Per Schlabach at ESPN: Wade made "impermissible payments" to recruits and others

Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:13 am to
Posted by tigerbait01
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:13 am to
Do you honestly, and I mean this with the most sincerity, think that he wasn’t smart about this? They would’ve had him by now if it was as simple as you have implied. Wade is far from an idiot. And contrary to popular belief, basketball does matter to some of us. And to the ones that it matters to, I haven’t heard or seen many say that he is a cancer. Quite frankly, he’s put together probably the most talented roster assembled here in the last 20 years. Now how he went about it, I don’t know. But do you honestly think he’s done anything the others aren’t? And don’t give me that they don’t get caught. They have been caught red-handed and they haven’t been continuously scrutinized like this situation.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:15 am to
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There was plenty of just a circumstantial evidence around Cam. I'd argue that there's more evidence he got paid than of Will Wade doing anything, but it's not really necessary for this discussion. Don't play dumb just because he's your guy
Yeah, ATPB provided a lot of circumstantial evidence. It was proven that MSU boosters discussed payment with his dad and that Cam was being shopped. But there was nothing implicating AU. Again, if Gene was recorded talking about offering Cam, AU gets hammered.

Did Cam get paid by AU? Hell yeah he probably did. But nothing showed AU paid him. Only innuendo that AU had to have paid him since he ended up there which isn’t evidence.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:16 am to
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Did Cam get paid by AU? Hell yeah he probably did. But nothing showed AU paid him. Only innuendo that AU had to have paid him since he ended up there which isn’t evidence.


this sounds familiar.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32455 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:16 am to
lol this dude will be fired before the season
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
976 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:16 am to
Laughable. You realize “them”, the NCAA, is a consortium of the university’s themselves right? The universities hold all the power to change, dismantle or banish the NCAA. Peon fans are idiots when it comes to them vs us mentality when in fact we are them. Bunch of damn meatheads like the Ogre.

quote:

As witnessed by this whole CoVID football thing (and throughout the rest of history) the NCAA is the most useless organization ever created. "Amateur" sports that generate billions in revenue, but don't pay them, and if you do, don't let us find out (unless you're Duke, Kansas, or Kentucky), and if we do, comply with the investigation or maybe don't for the best results. FCK em. I'm sure the conferences are perfectly capable of organizing their own tournaments. And that is the only benefit I'm aware of that the NCAA offers. Pay players what you think they're worth in the open. Be done with all this made up clandestine bull shite that exists in one, single "industry" because someone way back when wanted to control it themselves.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:16 am to
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IIRC Cam's dad admitted he got paid it was just that Cam didn't know. Maybe it was his dad shopped him? Honestly can't remember.
Only that he was shopped.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25555 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:17 am to
This is what happens when you blindly worship someone as a hero. Did you really think he was getting all these top recruits without violating the rules?

His lack of cooperation is going to be a real problem.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:18 am to
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this sounds familiar.
AU coaches weren’t on wiretaps discussing payment. Seriously, you can’t see the difference?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88578 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:19 am to
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AU coaches weren’t on wiretaps discussing payment. Seriously, you can’t see the difference?



And Wade is? i must have missed where he with certainty discussed money.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:20 am to
If Wade ends up gone, Woodward had best swing a big stick and nut drag the NCAA by stealing a Cal or coach K level coach from a blue blood.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36349 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:21 am to
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AU coaches weren’t on wiretaps discussing payment. Seriously, you can’t see the difference?


The wiretap has been known about for over a year. Hell the recording has been public for 6 months. The NCAA doesn’t have to answer to anyone yet they are punting this?

Why is that?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115556 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:21 am to
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Woodward had best swing a big stick and nut drag the NCAA by stealing a Cal or coach K level coach from a blue blood.


Yeah good luck with that
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:22 am to
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Yeah good luck with that


Double up their salary if you have to. The money can be obtained.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14158 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:22 am to
“Strong arse offer” is the definition of innuendo, which is what you said about the Cam situation.


ETA: just so we are clear, I have no illusions about the cleanliness of LSU sports. I’m fairly sure “strong arse offer” was talking about money. However, when you combine the lack of proof of payment (so far) with the fact that many other programs are equally dirty, I will continue to obstinately bang the “prove it” drum. I like that Wade made LSU basketball fun again.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:24 am to
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And Wade is? i must have missed where he with certainty discussed money.
Okay. Guess that’s where we are gonna have to disagree. Pretty disingenuous and homerish on your part but all good.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88578 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:25 am to
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Okay. Guess that’s where we are gonna have to disagree. Pretty disingenuous and homerish on your part but all good.



Don't try to play the homer card when you're sticking your head in the sand for your guy

Calling me disingenuous
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
4174 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:26 am to
POS your about as dumb as the rest !
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115556 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:26 am to
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Double up their salary if you have to. The money can be obtained.


That’s not how it works.

No one is leaving a blue blood for LSU basketball.

Especially if LSU fires Wade and admits wrong doing- the NCAA will hammer LSU if they do that
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 11:27 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36349 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:27 am to
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And Wade is? i must have missed where he with certainty discussed money.
Okay. Guess that’s where we are gonna have to disagree. Pretty disingenuous and homerish on your part but all good.



The NCAA is the investigator and passes the sentence. Why did they give it up?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33972 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 11:27 am to
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Nope. Every bleeding heart on twitter tells me that college athletes are “unpaid workers”. College athletes do not get paid for their services. It does not happen.


It always makes me chuckle at the hypocrisy of those who scream and yell that the "players need to be paid"...only to then turn around and feign indignation when we find out they actually did get paid...quite a bit...albeit "under the table". You know who doesn't want the player to "get paid" by the schools? THE GREAT PLAYERS! They would be taken huge paycuts if LSU had to pay them vs. "boosters"

As far as Wade is concerned, I think it would be incredibly naive to think he did not arrange payments to players. That's simply how high level basketball recruiting works at EVERY power conf. school. Only the wholly naive and/or willfully disingenuous dipshits on here believe otherwise. In fact, at least Wade seems to be getting a pretty good ROI. Johnny Jones paid for players as well and had exactly one NCAAT appearance to show for it in 5 years along with the worst season in 20+ years.

The question is and has ALWAYS been whether or not there is any evidence of payment other than the wiretap statements. No question those statements are not good. But without anything else, it seems like it may be pretty difficult to "throw the book" at Wade/LSU.

There very well may be much, much more than what we have heard thus far. But I do think it is somewhat telling that with an ever present media desperately looking for anything to stir up a story there hasn't been any additional information other than the wiretaps...which everyone has known about for over a year.



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