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re: Per Culotta, LSU wants Walker Howard to get reps with the 2nd team because of Nuss’s play
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:17 am to the LSUSaint
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:17 am to the LSUSaint
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You surely don't think Howard would sit behind Jaden for 2 years, then Nuss for 2?
I certainly do not think Walker would sit that long nor will he. I just don't think Nuss would have transferred this August. He entered the season 2nd string. He's one play away from playing. I don't think he leaves in August as a 2nd string QB to go somewhere he is guaranteed to not see the field due to transfer rules. Nuss would have had his name in the portal in May to play this season. What good does it do to practice with a new team BEFORE the season if you are ineligible to play?
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 8:23 am
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:33 am to the LSUSaint
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They knew he wasn't starting very early in summer. After Brennan left, they had to put and a show to keep him on roster and have warm bodies back there.
Howard was known to be better talent all along
This, takes a little politicking to keep certain players on the roster. This is Howard's team once Jayden heads to the NFL.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:46 am to Byrdybyrd05
It's very easy to look at the 2 interceptions he threw and judge him on that, but he still made some really good plays. If he would've thrown those 2 balls away into the stands instead of trying to force the throw, nobody would be talking about this
If he learns how to throw it away he is going to fine
If he learns how to throw it away he is going to fine
Posted on 9/15/22 at 8:54 am to bugafor6
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So, the coaching staff went from considering him a potential starter to 3rd string after half of a game? Do y’all really believe the coaches are that irrational?
They're not that irrational. Doubt there was ever a real QB competition in the spring. I bet Nuss showed at practice exactly what they showed in the game. They use the competition angle as a tactical advantage to keep the media at bay.
They realize that they're 1 play away from having to rely on another QB, so the wise thing to do is get all the bodies on your team prepared to go if needed.
They'll aim to keep the RS on Howard, but if they're at a point where the season is salvageable and there's a chance for a good post season bid, I think they'd like to have Howard ready to go.
Now, if the season is kind of lost (few more early season losses), they'll ride with Nuss in order to keep the RS on Howard in hopes that Nuss gets the gun slinging dialed in and protect the ball a little better.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:05 am to Byrdybyrd05
It's very easy to look at the 2 interceptions he threw and judge him on that, but he still made some really good plays. If he would've thrown those 2 balls away into the stands instead of trying to force the throw, nobody would be talking about this
If he learns how to throw it away he is going to fine
If he learns how to throw it away he is going to fine
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:36 am to bberg5
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If he would've thrown those 2 balls away into the stands instead of trying to force the throw
But he didn't
There are a ton of more talented qbs than Nuss that could never learn. Some never get it.
If Howard is ready next year, I see a team possibly without Nuss and Daniels.
Daniels did well running the FSU game....nothing special at all passing.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:13 am to Fonzarelli
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Keep. That. Dude. Red. Shirt-ed. At. All. Costs.
LOL....you really think coaches think that far ahead? You think Brian Kelly is worrying about what his QB options are in 2026? Because that would be the only benefit to redshirting Howard this year and in the process, you are conceding that he hasn't played well enough in 4 years in the program to move on to the NFL. Unless Howard told the staff he promised to be here for 5 years because being a 4-year starter and breaking every LSU passing record is more important than playing in the NFL, the staff is going to do what they have to do in order to finish with the best possible record this season. For that, they need to be able to identify a reliable backuo QB and it's safe to say that Nussmeier hasn't proven he can be that. And FWIW, Daniels still has a year of eligibility. If Howard wants to compete for the staring job next year, he'll need all the reps he can get this year.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:13 am to Tigerfan1274
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If he does and keeps playing like he is currently playing, Walker likely doesn't start until his 3rd season.
I'm still not sold on Daniels. He looked terrible in the pocket against an average FSU team and did great against a SWAC team that was completely outmatched.
I know BK and the other coaches have forgotten more about football than anyone on the Rant ever knew, so I trust they will put the right QB out there when the time is right.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:20 am to bberg5
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If he would've thrown those 2 balls away
Yeah, that's the whole point. He's coached to throw it away but when the game is in motion he fails to execute what he was coached to do.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:28 am to ccomeaux
When has a school that is worth a shite have a QB stay at their school 5 years and actually play in their 5th year successfully?
Is it Flynn 15 years ago?
Is it Flynn 15 years ago?
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:41 am to lsupride87
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When has a school that is worth a shite have a QB stay at their school 5 years and actually play in their 5th year successfully?
Uhh Joe Burrow?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:44 am to LSBoosie
Joe burrow stayed 5 years at Ohio state?
That’s the point. The chance of a Qb staying 5 years at the same school and then playing is minuscule. When you redshirt your player, the only person who may benefit in the future is another school
That’s the point. The chance of a Qb staying 5 years at the same school and then playing is minuscule. When you redshirt your player, the only person who may benefit in the future is another school
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:44 am to lsupride87
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When has a school that is worth a shite have a QB stay at their school 5 years and actually play in their 5th year successfully?
Kenny Pickett, last year.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:45 am to Tigerfan1274
Pickett never once redshirted, but I will award half a point for finding a 5 year player that had value
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:48 am to lsupride87
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Pickett never once redshirted,
True, but he used his fifth year granted from COVID. He was at Pitt for 5 seasons, 2017-2021 seasons.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
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Joe burrow stayed 5 years at Ohio state?
That’s the point. The chance of a Qb staying 5 years at the same school and then playing is minuscule. When you redshirt your player, the only person who may benefit in the future is another school
What does it matter? You don't think he could start his 3rd, 4th, and 5th year?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
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Pickett never once redshirted, but I will award half a point for finding a 5 year player that had value
You didn't say anything about redshirting. You said:
quote:
When has a school that is worth a shite have a QB stay at their school 5 years and actually play in their 5th year successfully?
And he told you one from last year.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:51 am to LSBoosie
It’s extremely unlikely any QB will play at a p5 school in their 5th year without transferring
Coaches shouldn’t even think about the value of the “redshirt” when it comes to their Qb. It shouldn’t enter their mind at all
Coaches shouldn’t even think about the value of the “redshirt” when it comes to their Qb. It shouldn’t enter their mind at all
quote:Ok. Maybe every 150 years or so when democrats shut down the country for a pandemic it will be smart to maybe have a 5th year player
Tennis is primetime 4 times a year. And frankly, the French Open can be like watching a tractor pull. Kinda hard to get the word out.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 10:53 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:53 am to lsupride87
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When has a school that is worth a shite have a QB stay at their school 5 years and actually play in their 5th year successfully?
Greg McElroy?
AJ McCarron?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:55 am to lsupride87
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Joe burrow stayed 5 years at Ohio state?
That’s the point. The chance of a Qb staying 5 years at the same school and then playing is minuscule. When you redshirt your player, the only person who may benefit in the future is another school
Correct. The cost of not not getting Howard as many valuable reps as possible for the benefit of a possible 5th year is way too high.
That was the case BEFORE the free transfer rule existed, and it's even MORE the case now. I swear, a lot of people are in denial. The chances of a QB (of all positions) who is a difference maker, who stays at the same school for 5 years is so low, it shouldn't be part of the decision making process.
The ONLY reason to redshirt Howard is because his Dad demands it. That's it. Otherwise, it makes zero sense.
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