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re: Pearson indeed is Mr Clutch...in the field also
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:41 am to Choupique19
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:41 am to Choupique19
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Florida wouldn’t have annihilated LSU on game 2 if LSU was facing elimination. We pitched guys like Money and Dutton in game 2 once we fell behind to save pitching for game 3. We would have seen much different relievers for LSU if we were facing elimination.
Huh????? For the record, when Ackenhausen was pitching and Guidry was pitching after 4 innings, it was Florida 8 LSU 3. LSU only scored a grand total of 4 runs the entire game. Ssssssooooo, you are basically saying the LSU HITTERS gave up? Before those sacrificial lamb pitchers came in, LSU was already behind by multiple runs and only scored 1 run the entire rest of the game. I reject your theory on the grounds it flat out makes 0 common sense.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:45 am to NotaStarGazer
If Josh Pearson hit .235 as a whole in SEC play, what do you think he hit with RISP?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 12:55 pm to NotaStarGazer
Josh Pearson had 26 ABs in SEC play with RISP.
Want to guess what he batted?
Want to guess what he batted?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:03 pm to Lester Earl
Don’t downvote, take a guess
Hint: it was lower than his .235 league average
Hint: it was lower than his .235 league average
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:11 pm to Lester Earl
What people don't remember is that Josh Pearson saved Riley Cooper with that catch. Cooper had a double play ball hit right back at him and it bounced out of his glove for an infield hit. If Cooper fields that ball, the inning is over before Langford ever gets to the plate.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:16 pm to NotaStarGazer
Sat in left field that game. That was the biggest “no video can do it justice” play I’ve ever seen in person in any sport. That ball had wicked movement off the bat in the biggest moment of his career
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
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You try and keep data points simple for low IQ individuals. 1 player’s sample size doesn’t prove anything, either. I.
Craig biggio regular season .796 post .618
Jeff bagwell career ops .948 post season ops .685
Altuve
Regular season .833
Post season ops .853
Reggie Jackson regular season .846 post season .885
Jeter .817 post season .838
You can call the improvements minor but that’s against the best pitching staffs in the league being used in their maximum way as possible.
Some people are clutch some aren’t.
The ones who aren’t use the “small sample size” type arguments
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:35 pm to Adam Banks
Jeff Bagwell had almost 4 seasons worth of ABs w/ RISP (2111 ABs)
He hit:
308/448/550
For his career, Bagwell hit overall
297/408/549
Craig Biggio
2322 AB RISP: .288/388/418
Career: .281/363/433
You are free to interpret data how you feel. But that surely isn’t the best way
He hit:
308/448/550
For his career, Bagwell hit overall
297/408/549
Craig Biggio
2322 AB RISP: .288/388/418
Career: .281/363/433
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The ones who aren’t use the “small sample size” type arguments
You are free to interpret data how you feel. But that surely isn’t the best way
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:46 pm to Lester Earl
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Jeff Bagwell had almost 4 seasons worth of ABs w/ RISP (2111 ABs) He hit: 308/448/550 For his career, Bagwell hit overall 297/408/549
Hitting with RISP on June 15th vs a call up to eat some innings is a little different than hitting in the 9th inning with RISP in a 2-0 game vs Trevor Hoffman no?
He struck out btw.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:47 pm to BilJ
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what's the average age of the daily dandy don reader? 55-60?
What difference does that make, Bilj? Is it disgraceful to get old? Do you think you will become less intelligent when you reach 55?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:56 pm to Adam Banks
You either want the truth, or you want to tickle some bias you have by using a small sample size & making up your own definition of what is considered clutch. It’s easy to manipulate numbers & do that.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:01 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
Craig biggio regular season .796 post .618
Jeff bagwell career ops .948 post season ops .685
Altuve
Regular season .833
Post season ops .853
Reggie Jackson regular season .846 post season .885
Jeter .817 post season .838
Are we calling all post season at bats clutch? While I agree with you that there are definitely players who are more clutch than others I wouldn't use an entire post season career batting average as evidence to a "clutch" stat. Nor would I consider batting average with RISP a "clutch stat." Timely hitting and hitting in the clutch while sometimes might be the same are not always the same. There is more context needed because a runner on 2nd in the top of the first inning is not always a "clutch" situation.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:02 pm to Lester Earl
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You either want the truth
I’m showing that there’s a distinct reason some people are considered clutch and some others aren’t.
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you have by using a small sample size
Clayton kershaw has an entire seasons worth of innings with and ERA 2 runs above is regular season ERA
quote:
It’s easy to manipulate numbers & do that.
By using numbers on people who are considered clutch and comparing them to people who are considered chokers?
People who have trouble steadying their heartbeat when things get stressful always blame things like sample size when the pressure is on. Funny enough if they could perform like they normally do then that sample size would be larger because they would help the team move on…..
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:22 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Are we calling all post season at bats clutch? While I agree with you that there are definitely players who are more clutch than others I wouldn't use an entire post season career batting average as evidence to a "clutch" stat.
With how managers handle pitchers in the postseason I’d say it’s close as you can get to having every single at bat being critical. Aces go on short rest. Andrew Miller famously coming in as early as the 7th inning or even earlier to preserve leads and go multiple innings. I’d consider everyone’s behavior to be as if every pitch matters.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:41 pm to NotaStarGazer
Nobody shits on LSU quite like Lester. It’s amazing that some people can have the whole forum tell them to shut the frick up for years, yet they continue on.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:01 pm to Nomadic Bengal
Facts over feelings, always.
It’s very easy to present facts & not shite on players, such as I have done.
How your crybaby arse interprets it is another story. That’s on you
It’s very easy to present facts & not shite on players, such as I have done.
How your crybaby arse interprets it is another story. That’s on you
Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:50 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:I laughed, I remember his meltdowns.
Oh you were watching?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:07 pm to Lester Earl
First, I would need to know the situations even in SEC play. Was LSU way behind? Was LSU way ahead? Of course even RISP matters as to the quality of the opponent and the score. Also, Mr Stats, let's say LSU is behind one run with no one on base. If Pearson hits and solo HR, that is CLUTCH hitting and doesn't even reflect in RISP BA. I will quote some of DandyDon site examples.
"Mr. Clutch: Josh Pearson
It’s not often you find a cleanup hitter with a .244 batting average in LSU’s lineup (of all teams), but Josh Pearson made for quite the exception this past season. How? Well, I think a casual LSU baseball fan put it best when he remarked, “Pearson hits .500 every time I watch a game.” Makes sense if you’re only watching big games and big moments. Because Pearson had plenty of those in 2024. From his walk-off RBI single against Auburn in a much-needed victory in The Box to his go-ahead two-run double against No. 1 Texas A&M to a bases-loaded two-run base knock against South Carolina during the Tigers’ unbelievable comeback victory in the SEC Tournament, Pearson had a knack for delivering in clutch moments. He also knew how to respond when faced with adversity. After being pinch hit for against North Carolina in the Chapel Hill Regional, Pearson went 3-for-4 with four RBIs in a 13-6 victory against Wofford before turning right around and leading off the second UNC contest with a two-run homer."
This I believe is from 2023...LSU sportsnet had this. "Voted to the NCAA Baton Rouge Regional All-Tournament Team after batting .364 (4-for-11) in three games with two triples, one homer, five RBI and three runs" That is called CLUTCH hitting in extremely important games.
"Mr. Clutch: Josh Pearson
It’s not often you find a cleanup hitter with a .244 batting average in LSU’s lineup (of all teams), but Josh Pearson made for quite the exception this past season. How? Well, I think a casual LSU baseball fan put it best when he remarked, “Pearson hits .500 every time I watch a game.” Makes sense if you’re only watching big games and big moments. Because Pearson had plenty of those in 2024. From his walk-off RBI single against Auburn in a much-needed victory in The Box to his go-ahead two-run double against No. 1 Texas A&M to a bases-loaded two-run base knock against South Carolina during the Tigers’ unbelievable comeback victory in the SEC Tournament, Pearson had a knack for delivering in clutch moments. He also knew how to respond when faced with adversity. After being pinch hit for against North Carolina in the Chapel Hill Regional, Pearson went 3-for-4 with four RBIs in a 13-6 victory against Wofford before turning right around and leading off the second UNC contest with a two-run homer."
This I believe is from 2023...LSU sportsnet had this. "Voted to the NCAA Baton Rouge Regional All-Tournament Team after batting .364 (4-for-11) in three games with two triples, one homer, five RBI and three runs" That is called CLUTCH hitting in extremely important games.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:07 pm to Adam Banks
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I’d consider everyone’s behavior to be as if every pitch matters.
Yeah, I disagree. Every pitch and every game can matter but that doesn't mean that every at bat is a clutch situation. Each game is going to have critical situations to when the outcome of the game is on the line. That is the clutch moment. The entire game is not the "defining moment or clutch situation."
The rest of the comments about certain players being more clutch than others and clutch hitters exist? Sure, I definitely agree with this. But not every at bat of every post season. That is absurd.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:17 pm to NotaStarGazer
GO FIGURE
Afraid to answer
A player can’t be clutch only on your mythical terms. That is called fantasy
Afraid to answer
A player can’t be clutch only on your mythical terms. That is called fantasy
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 4:18 pm
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