re: Passing game WILL improve this year

Wow so what you're saying is our two frosh QB's could not beat out the senior returning starter! Where do you people come from

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Nice Try, baw.

First, I never once said a good QBR = Superstar.

I used QBR as an example to negate your point (at your request, mind you) that all good QBs are upperclassmen.

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So you believe that the list you used was a good indicator of what a “good QB” is. You even explicitly used the top 10. And Danny Etling was on that top 10 list.

So by your logic, we can’t have a good QB on our roster because he couldn’t beat out Danny Etling, who was a top 10 QB nationally.

So either your list is shite or your logic is, baw.

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So by your logic, we can’t have a good QB on our roster because he couldn’t beat out Danny Etling, who was a top 10 QB nationally.

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In QBR** - You are a fricking moron If you think DE is a top 10 QB in college football. Hes not even going to be drafted.

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So either your list is shite or your logic is, baw.

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It was two separate questions/points being answered, baw.

When arguing your point that "all good QBs are upperclassmen" I showed you that statistically 4/10 top QBR rankings were underclassmen. Its that simple.

Heres the reality, with Etling (whether hes a top 10 QBR or not), he didn't get the job done last year and the majority of LSU fans who actually watch the games would agree we need better play out of the QB position. Hence having 4 losses last year (not all his fault, but his shortcomings were certainly part of the problem). Being efficient and having a good QBR doesn't paint the whole picture.

Back to the ORIGINAL point about McMillan (who is now a JR) and Brennan competing and/or not beating him out last year.

We got underwhelming QB play from Etling, with McMillan not even competing for his job last year (as the most experienced QB on the team). How is it possible that now suddenly the guy who couldnt compete with Etling is going to step in an outperform Etling a few short months later.

Again, Etlings "top 10 QBR ranking" is irrelevant in this point (but was completely relevant in the former point about "upperclassmen").

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When arguing your point that "all good QBs are upperclassmen" I showed you that statistically 4/10 top QBR rankings were underclassmen. Its that simple

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First of all that was not my point. I even told you my point when I said “my point: ...” in a previous reply to you, which you replied “no shite Sherlock” so you clearly understand my point.

Second, your list has Danny etling on it who you already claimed was not a good QB. And #12 was Ahmad Bradshaw, Army QB who there 43 times last year. Not 43 TDS, 43 passes total. That is a poor list which is not indicative of the best QBs and does nothing to negate my point. My list was from NCAA stats page.

I see no reason for you to be a prick about any of this.

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We got underwhelming QB play from Etling, with McMillan not even competing for his job last year (as the most experienced QB on the team).

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He was a fifth year player who started most of the previous season while McMillan was a third year player. How on earth was he the most experienced? They were both redshirted in 2015. Most experienced besides Etling?

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How is it possible that now suddenly the guy who couldnt compete with Etling is going to step in an outperform Etling a few short months later.

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See above, are you talking about outperforming Etling or Brennan? Because he just outperformed Brennan so this shouldn’t be some shocking revelation.

We are only having this discussion because of his performance in the Spring. Which brings me back to my actual point, that QBs improve and that upperclassmen are typically at the top of the passing leaders nationally.

Etling was a 5th year senior, built like a pro, had experience as a QB for LSU and from the list you linked, compared well to some of the top QBs nationally. This was also for a different O coordinator. Using Etling as a benchmark of a bad QB begging to be passed up is faulty.

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he didn't get the job done last year and the majority of LSU fans who actually watch the games

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I watch at least 5 NCAA games a week including LSU. Not only do I watch our team I watch teams we never play against, and have a basis of comparison to our players.

How many QBs that played last year nationwide could have “gotten it done”. Go undefeated with our team. Do you think Fromm or Hurts would have put us ahead of UGA or Bama?

Its obvious that players can improve with age, with experience, with acting like assistant coaches, with having the right offensive coach, with having the right opportunity, with certain things getting straight in their personal life, and many other aspects in life.

But...Its absurd and very near-sighted to think how a player played yesterday is how he is going to play today. Very very very immature assessment. Thank goodness you are not a coach.

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No, not likely with our coaching staff. I actually think there are only a handfull of QBS in the past 5 years who could have "gotten it done" (aka win the SEC and make a playoff appearance).

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Your earlier reply to me

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People get obsessed with the passing game because it is literally the one thing that has kept us from competing for championships the past decade

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Yeah this is a bit exhausting.

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I respectfully disagree. He was tough, safe and didn't turn the ball over. But he was not a playmaker who allowed us to compete for an SEC or Playoff appearance. If you truly watch 5 games every Saturday this fact should be truly evident.

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There is a big difference between deserving to be replaced by a true freshman and not being a big enough playmaker to lead a team to a championship.

I have said on here in the past that I thought we were more than a QB from being a championship team.

And I don’t watch all the games Saturday I watch the Thursday and Friday games and only a handful on Saturday.

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We are literally talking in circles on some of this.

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I agree, but when you call someone a fricking moron when you present conflicting assertions you may expect them to try and defend themself.

That’s great!

If you keep on posting conflicting shite you could make a lot of cash!

Saying the coaching staff is an issue and the passing game an issue isn’t conflicting

The coaching staff is why so many people have an issue with the passing game.