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re: Passing game WILL improve this year
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:14 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:14 am to Lester Earl
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Terrible logic lol
Jamarcus Russell couldn’t beat out Marcus Randall either as a young player.
Cute. McMillian was a RS Sophomore last year. He had been at LSU longer than Etling had.
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:15 am to UpToPar
Lowell was rehabbing all last year as he stated in an interview so he didn't have an opportunity up until this year. I think we should go all in with Lowell he has the arm, the legs, and looking at the spring game he's accurate enough especially on the deep ball. Justin did all those things well but he's the game manager type and we need a difference maker this year since the running game won't be as strong.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:16 am to phonyscandals
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Passing game WILL improve this year
Well....duh....only place for it to go is up.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:17 am to supersaints9
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If this is true then why didn’t JM start over Etling? Every time I refresh this board it’s another poster trying to convince himself that we are ok at QB
"Players get better you know" is the stock response.
Really difficult to believe that a player could go from not seriously challenging the starter last year to becoming a "huge upgrade" in one offseason. A huge upgrade from Etling amounts to one of the better SEC QBs. So that's what I expect now.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:24 am to OceanMan
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People get obsessed with the passing game.
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Successful offense because they could always move it.
Have you seen what our backfield looks like this year?
You remember how our offense "moved the ball" with guys like Fournette / Guice in the backfield?
People get obsessed with the passing game because it is literally the one thing that has kept us from actually competing for championships the past decade.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:25 am to Goldrush25
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Really difficult to believe that a player could go from not seriously challenging the starter last year to becoming a "huge upgrade" in one offseason
Exactly. Except for the delusional sunshine pumpers - they already printed the t-shirts.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:29 am to phonyscandals
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:29 am to phonyscandals
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Myles looks pretty accurate at times
At times? WTF?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:31 am to Lester Earl
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Jamarcus Russell couldn’t beat out Marcus Randall either as a young player.
Based on what we now know about JR's work ethic, that's not a surprise.
Based on pure talent, he probably should've had the permanent job earlier than he did.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:53 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:33 am to phonyscandals
I wouldn’t call any of them an upgrade over etling yet. Let’s see how the qbs do in a real game first.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:34 am to Lester Earl
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Jamarcus Russell couldn’t beat out Marcus Randall either as a young player.
Stupid argument. Jmarc actually started games in 04. It was Saban not being able to decide. Same with booty and Rohan.
The mismanagement of QBs at LSU has gone on for a long long time.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:34 am to phonyscandals
Which QB would you start after hearing what we have been hearing all spring? Would it be Justin the veteran who looked the best in the spring game but was okay in the past scrimmages but brings the game manager presence. Would it be Myles who is the most accurate out of them all but looked like a true freshman Saturday. Would it be Lowell who had some good scrimmages and has the highest ceiling out of all of them with all he can do?
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:37 am to TigerFan4040
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Yea its so dumb to wonder why a junior QB who has been no better than 3rd string on our depth chart his entire time at LSU (despite struggling, poor, underwhelming QB play ahead of him) is suddenly going to be our starting QB and bring us to the promised land.
Let’s just do a quick look at how upperclassmen typically stack up against the nations best.
Passing efficiency and yards per game leaders over the past few years (first 2 categories i saw that I consider meaningful). Total in top 10 that were either juniors or seniors are below:
2017: 8,9
2016: 8,9
2015: 9,8
2014: 8,8
From what I noticed every single one of the underclassmen that make up the differences above either went on to be in the top ten as upperclassmen and were/will be a first round pick. Names like Jared Goff, James Winston, Johnny Manziel, San darnold etc.
The simple point I am demonstrating is the top QBs year in and year out are upperclassmen. I welcome you to find statistical proof that is not the case but from my own anecdotal observations and this quick look I don’t think you will.
Does that mean everyone gets better? Of course not. But the fact that the list is mostly made up of upperclassmen every single year seems to indicate that those same individuals were at one time backups.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:41 am to Lester Earl
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Jamarcus Russell couldn’t beat out Marcus Randall either as a young player.
He at least pushed him for time. He played in 11 games and started 4 games.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:47 am to geauxtigers33
LSU needs a miracle.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:48 am to OceanMan
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The simple point I am demonstrating is the top QBs year in and year out are upperclassmen. I welcome you to find statistical proof that is not the case but from my own anecdotal observations and this quick look I don’t think you will.
The 2 QBS who started in the fricking National Championship game last year were underclassmen... Oh yea, and so was that 3rd one who came in and won the game.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:49 am to LNCHBOX
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JM is a "young player" now?
Um he clearly was referring to previous years...
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:53 am to TigerFan4040
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Have you seen what our backfield looks like this year? You remember how our offense "moved the ball" with guys like Fournette / Guice in the backfield? People get obsessed with the passing game because it is literally the one thing that has kept us from actually competing for championships the past decade.
RBs will be fine this year.
All I am saying if you bothered to read it is you don’t have to have crazy passing stats. You need to be able to convert third downs and red zone attempts to have a successful offense.
As a fan base our expectations about what we need from our QB are getting less realistic by the season. We had a decent QB last year that everyone seems to think was awful.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:55 am to OceanMan
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This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:57 am to OceanMan
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From what I noticed every single one of the underclassmen that make up the differences above either went on to be in the top ten as upperclassmen and were/will be a first round pick. Names like Jared Goff, James Winston, Johnny Manziel, San darnold etc.
The simple point I am demonstrating is the top QBs year in and year out are upperclassmen. I welcome you to find statistical proof that is not the case but from my own anecdotal observations and this quick look I don’t think you will.
Does that mean everyone gets better? Of course not. But the fact that the list is mostly made up of upperclassmen every single year seems to indicate that those same individuals were at one time backups.
All of those QBs you listed either started at sophomores or redshirt freshmen.
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