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re: Pass Interference Call at end of LSU-AU

Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:48 am to
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:48 am to
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I don't mean we scored on the play. I mean we score on the drive from the 10 instead of the 25 with 1:30 on the clock or something like that.


I know. I addressed that too.

The way Auburn's front seven was playing, no way they just let LSU waltz into the endzone by running. LSU would've had to pass. Which would've been utterly reckless, like I said. Even throwing slants like Burrow had been hitting all day, you just never know if some freak accident could happen like the ball ricocheting off the receiver's chest into the hands of LB. Also a much smaller window for the passing game to operate in. At the opponent's 10-yard line, there are more defenders per square yard.

The risk of trying to get into the endzone in that situation would far outweigh the risk of letting Tracy kick a chip shot FG.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 10:55 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28243 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:52 am to
There could be an argument for holding instead of pass interference on the throw down the middle on the final LSU drive (depends if ball was already in air or not), but either way it results in an LSU first down... As Gary Danielson said “Absolutely. That’s a great call by the official there. It wasn’t at the end of the play that the crowd is looking at, it was early in the route.” The fans in the stadium were not shown the clear and blatant hold.

The second PI to put LSU in FG range was textbook PI. I’m sure everyone has seen the picture by now. As Danielson said, “Yep, no question on that one ... that’s just undiciplined football... you can’t allow that to happen, he’s grabbing him the whole way. He’s holding down his right arm.”
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18916 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:53 am to
Grabbing the arm on a leaping catch will always be obvious and called. Grabbing the arm and holding through the entire process of a leaping catch will isn't going to be called less.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:56 am to
To be honest though, that db KNEW he was beat. The PI is without a doubt the best thing he could do on that play. He doesn't interfere, d Jefferson has a +90% chance of catching that ball. A 30 yarder is alot easier than a 40-45 yard field goal
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 10:57 am
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 10:59 am to
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To be honest though, that db KNEW he was beat. The PI is without a doubt the best thing he could do on that play. He doesn't interfere, d Jefferson has a +90% chance of catching that ball. A 30 yarder is alot easier than a 40-45 yard field goal


That's why secondary coaches at the HS and college level will actually encourage PI in certain drastic situations.

Better a 15-yard penalty than a 50-yard TD. I believe that's why the NFL decided to make it a spot foul.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
5146 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:05 am to
Do yourself a favor and watch Matt Wyatt's Film Study of the game. The PI call is in there. It's worth your time to watch the entire video.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11029 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:08 am to
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I haven't been on here this week and didn't want to take the time to search so


Well then frick off
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:12 am to
I 100% agree it should be a spot foul, like the NFL. There shouldnt be a time when breaking the rules is beneficial.
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
960 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:12 am to
There should have been even MORE interference penalties against Auburn than were called - two of them IN THE ENDZONE!!!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:16 am to
Refs seems to check if there is an arm bar by the DB before calling a PI and the position of the DB’s head. The AU DB was definitely armbarring. To his credit the DB did get his head around but he was caught armbarring the receiver. Without a PI the ball would have been caught. It was a pretty well thrown ball. The ref made the right call.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11766 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:20 am to
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There could be an argument for holding instead of pass interference on the throw down the middle on the final LSU drive (depends if ball was already in air or not), but either way it results in an LSU first down... As Gary Danielson said “Absolutely. That’s a great call by the official there. It wasn’t at the end of the play that the crowd is looking at, it was early in the route.” The fans in the stadium were not shown the clear and blatant hold.

That one probably should have been called holding. About 10 yards past the LOS the Aubie defender grabbed him and then let him go.

The big PI at the end was even more blatant. Jefferson was only able to raise one arm to try to make the catch because the Auburn DB was holding JJ's right arm down with his left hand. There are photos. That ball was on target and JJ would have caught it otherwise.
Posted by VT4
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2004
903 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:30 am to
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That pass was on the money

You have to love that ball placement
Posted by Capo
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2013
1038 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:32 am to
If the refs call the blatant pass interference in the end zone earlier, we would have likely just been running the clock out.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3622 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I know. I addressed that too.

The way Auburn's front seven was playing, no way they just let LSU waltz into the endzone by running. LSU would've had to pass. Which would've been utterly reckless, like I said. Even throwing slants like Burrow had been hitting all day, you just never know if some freak accident could happen like the ball ricocheting off the receiver's chest into the hands of LB. Also a much smaller window for the passing game to operate in. At the opponent's 10-yard line, there are more defenders per square yard.

The risk of trying to get into the endzone in that situation would far outweigh the risk of letting Tracy kick a chip shot FG.

Okay yeah that's a fair point. I think I just wanted to see a game winning TD
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10432 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:43 am to
I don’t know if the OP was at the game. I was. Both PI calls on the final drive, including the now clearly home-cooked replay on the Jumbotron, looked like total whiff calls. I actually felt bad for the Barners.

I got home and watched some replays on YouTube and saw the truth. Good calls (although the first still seems like it should have been defensive holding).
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 11:46 am
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:45 am to
If DBs were allowed to mug the WR without recourse, they would do it every play.

He grabbed his arm before the fricking ball got there.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12989 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:46 am to
Bro, it's Friday! LSU plays La Tech tomorrow, move on!
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3224 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:52 am to
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The DB had a firm grip on the WR's arm and was pulling it down both to prevent a catch and give himself leverage to get above the WR's hands to make a play on the ball.

Yes, it was a very beneficial call. It was also absolutely correct as it penalized textbook PI.



Agree. I can promise you we teach our DB's these techniques too. SEC officials tend to let players play a little more physical. Greedy got away with a couple. It ain't cheating if you do not get caught. Similar to interior line play, there are techniques used by all teams that attempt to conceal holds, gain leverage advantages, etc. It IS part of the game and a grey area when it comes to officiating.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:58 am to
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Did you watch the play?! The DB held our guy's arm so he couldn't go up and make the catch. Pretty textbook PI, but again it's not always called.



Especially in Jordan-Hare
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7231 posts
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:01 pm to
ALL of the PI calls have been validated over and over.
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