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re: Out of state tuition and room and board is about 50k per year

Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65869 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:05 pm to
I called it from day 1 that the NIL ruling would be ignored and it would just be a pay for play scam that the programs wouldn’t be able to afford so the networks and their partners would step in, pay these ridiculous salaries and basically steal the programs and the sport which is what’s happening already. Anybody who thought this was about fairness and earnings was living in a child’s fantasy.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28939 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:05 pm to
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At what point does a person go from kid to adult?


Legally speaking, sure. But if you release a bunch of 18 year olds into the wild and tell them to get their life together, it’s going to be a disaster.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14337 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:08 pm to
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And college football has been a multibillion dollar a year industry for a long time, with everybody involved banking. You really thought we’d get away with convincing the players who risk their necks to be the product that makes all that money to just accept “payment” with a scholarship? …something that doesn’t even cut into the bottom line of the business, LOL! What great hustle that was for a bunch of very rich people.


Yep...and most of that money funds the other multitude of college sports that cannot fund themselves...it's not like pure arse profit...a college education is worth A LOT...most of these kids would have been high school grads, or dropouts at best...You who think everyone DESERVES a huge paycheck are most definitely liberal tards with no concept of the worth of a free education including insurance, the best of healthcare, room and board....and some earning up to a Masters degree....a few hitting the jackpot in the NFL.
All I read in your hollow words are equity, inclusion and other whiney liberal crap.
I was on scholarship in college and damn happy to have had it....I didn't have welfare recipients whispering in my ear that I was a slave to LSU...So unbelievably myopic.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16608 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:14 pm to
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Some, most are not. If you went out at all when you were younger you would know that. Curfews get pushed to the side for big name players all the time. It took the Honey Badger 10 failed drug test to finally get kicked off the team but yea he’s waking up as an 18 yr old at 5 am working out and watching film study. You are a gullible little fella.

I mean most teams have mandatory workouts that are early in the morning. Sure some players put in more work than others, just like any other profession. Do you think people who smoke weed are incapable of waking up early? There are tons of stories of players going to early morning workouts hungover from the night before.
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So is college athletics. What’s your point

Some entities are, some aren’t. You are the one that brought up Traction, not me. Traction is just as irrelevant and any other business in this conversation.
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Did you not read my response. It’s the same damn formula

I don’t know what the “formula” you are referring to is. You asked if I think the LHSAA should be paying players and I said no.
Posted by TigerLifer
Stuart, Fl
Member since Jan 2009
187 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
Exactly. Wish I could give 10 thumbs up
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8894 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
I think you need to see about getting your higher education bub. I can’t go round and round with you if you don’t understand anything.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:18 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16608 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Legally speaking, sure. But if you release a bunch of 18 year olds into the wild and tell them to get their life together, it’s going to be a disaster.

I mean that happens all the time. Y’all said there are too many people that want to treat kids like adults, I’m just asking at what point you can start treating someone like an adult. Is it 18 for people who don’t go to college but older for people who do go to college?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16608 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:19 pm to
You are the one saying that players don’t wake up early, bringing up irrelevant businesses, and talking about some formula that you can’t explain “bub”
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted by TigerLifer
Stuart, Fl
Member since Jan 2009
187 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:20 pm to
Your comment reflects a lack of understanding of college athletics.
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:23 pm to
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How many players on a CFB roster have media obligations?
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the ones folks are complaining about getting paid
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Member since Jan 2015
8894 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:28 pm to
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You are the one saying that players don’t wake up early, bringing up irrelevant businesses, and talking about some formula that you can’t explain “bub”



I said the majority dont wake up at 5am and workout and damn sure aren’t watching film until midnight. Try and keep up


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bringing up irrelevant businesses


How is a for profit business irrelevant when talking about a for profit athletic dept lol? Both of them make money off their respective sport. Whether they are younger makes no difference. Are you still following?

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and talking about some formula that you can’t explain “bub”


Why do I need to explain it. The whole thread is about it. Are you retarded?

This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8894 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:30 pm to
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the ones folks are complaining about getting paid



So who on LSU’s team ? Maybe 2-3 players out of 90?
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:32 pm to
I lived it both ways. as a scholarship athlete @ LSU and a non scholarship student working most days. They are not comparable. at all.

i guess we will have to agree to disagree was to whether it’s a job but courts are starting to recognize them as employees.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16608 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:38 pm to
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I said the majority dont wake up at 5am and workout and damn sure aren’t watching film until midnight. Try and keep up

I said that athletes wake up at 5 am for workouts and you said “The fact that you believe players do this is comical”. Students stay up until midnight studying and doing homework all the time, but you think athletes never stay up late watching film?
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How is a for profit business irrelevant when talking about a for profit athletic dept lol? Both of them make money off their respective sport. Whether they are younger makes no difference. Are you still following?

Athletic departments aren’t really for profit like most companies. They are only profitable due to private donations. They spend basically all of their revenue every year.
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Why do I need to explain it. The whole thread is about it. Are you retarded?

Because you asked if I thought they LHSAA should play players and I said no then you started talking about some formula and I’m not sure what you are talking about. So yeah, I guess that’s why I need you to explain it to me.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:49 pm to
it is one of the many things these players are asked to do. nit pick each item if you wish. it doesn’t change the fact that during the season the player’s time is accounted for from at least 6am until 10 pm every Monday through Thursday. and for those saying regular students face the same pressures, what regular student is on tv in front of millions of people and 90k+ where everyone watching is evaluating their performance.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22479 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 1:58 pm to
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Traction


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LHSAA



Since when did these organizations get a 3 billion dollar television deal?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6022 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Anybody who thought this was about fairness and earnings was living in a child’s fantasy.


Why are you and others so against the market setting the compensation that players received in NIL?
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22479 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Why are you and other so against the market setting the compensation that players received in NIL?


Jealousy if I had to guess.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28939 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Y’all said there are too many people that want to treat kids like adults, I’m just asking at what point you can start treating someone like an adult. Is it 18 for people who don’t go to college but older for people who do go to college?


I think you’re overthinking the statement. Legally they are adults at 18. Think about how you were at 21. When I was in college, I still did lots of dumb shite. Hell, I did immature shite well into my 20’s.

If you want these guys to be treated as adults, fine. Let them pay health insurance premiums, file taxes on earnings, etc.

If you don’t want to treat them as adults, then maybe we need to rethink the piece of the pie they get.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8894 posts
Posted on 12/7/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Students stay up until midnight studying and doing homework all the time, but you think athletes never stay up late watching film?


You still can’t read. I said the majority aren’t doing that. They’re chasing pussy and living the college life. That’s why very few amount to anything at the next level but yea let’s throw a bunch of money at an 18 yr old and hope he gives a shite about his education, his teammates, or the school he’s playing for. You act like all these dudes were raised by Mother Teresa.

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They are only profitable due to private donations


They make more on ticket sales and media rights than contributors, but I misspoke, the university will be directly paying the players soon if not already so
it doesn’t really matter. The point remains

We should be able to agree that today’s NIL is going down a dangerous path and needs to be revised. Correct?

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