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re: Our receivers - what say you?

Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Mr Ho
Member since Nov 2008
56 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:36 am to
Flames? You way too sensative. you want flaming come on over to our board.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:36 am to
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our receivers seem to wait for a "perfect" ball to come to them


they've seen maybe 10 of theses all season...
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:39 am to
quote:

It just seems as if too many of GOOD catches are dropped.


good catches aren't dropped... they are good catches.. now if you're talking bout good passes, we haven't seen many...

quote:

I just do not see Colt for example, having an 80% completion rate if he was throwing to our receivers


speculation.... it is impossible to evaluate our WRs this year... so many bad passes, they can never get in a groove...
Posted by txquacker
Cypress, TX
Member since Jan 2008
101 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:40 am to
Our receivers are lacking consistent intensity and hunger. I feel they have the talent to step up to the plate. The season isn't over.
Posted by gemlsu
Member since Sep 2003
2397 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:46 am to
"I wasn't impressed with the route running this past weekend either. It seems that we have two receivers in the same spot, or within a couple yards of each other, on too many occasions"



I agree. I am not impressed. The receivers do not run crisp routes and their cuts are sloppy.I do not think that our wide receiver coach is doing a very good job. Responses welcome.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:49 am to
Lafell is a great route runner. Byrd needs to work on it, but I can't think of many better route runners I've seen in college.
Posted by tigerjuice
Gramercy
Member since Jan 2004
4849 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 10:54 am to
I don't know wht they throw to CM instead of throwing to Tolliver. CM hasn't been reliable all season. Sometimes he'll make a great catch and other times he'll drop very catchable passes. TT is the one that is supposed to have all this potential.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 11:45 am to
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speculation.... it is impossible to evaluate our WRs this year... so many bad passes, they can never get in a groove...


BUT...when the passes are good, they DO NOT consistently make the catch. I am not much on "the groove" thing. Some receivers never get more than one or two throws thrown to them per game.
If the pass is "catch able", catch it. It seems as if it is a lack of concentration and/or desire..
Is that the duties of a RECEIVER COACH?
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 11:47 am
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3097 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 11:50 am to
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BUT...when the passes are good, they DO NOT consistently make the catch. I am not much on "the groove" thing. Some receivers never get more than one or two throws thrown to them per game


but, if everytime a pass comes your way you have to be a magician to catch it....

and thats jsut it the good passes are so few and far in between they can not get consistent...
Posted by KCMOTiger
Kansas City, MO
Member since Nov 2007
653 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 11:50 am to
I think our receivers are very frustrated right now - all dressed up, and no one to throw to them (reliably). KC.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 11:53 am to
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but, if everytime a pass comes your way you have to be a magician to catch it.... and thats jsut it the good passes are so few and far in between they can not get consistent...


in any football game, a receiver can not expect any more than a handful of passes...unless he is the only one...
therefore, he must be ready to catch...
Bad passes, I understand,
but just because a previous pass was bad, it does not excuse dropping a good pass.


quote:

I think our receivers are very frustrated right now - all dressed up, and no one to throw to them (reliably). KC.'


they may be, but how is that a good excuse.
Each player MUST do their job.
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 11:55 am
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

No judgements can be made of WR's with the QB situation as is.

considering the number of drops and blown routes we have seen this year I think we clearly have seen a dropoff at receiver skill and production. Lafell is good...Byrd is good...Dickson is good and all have had their moments, both good and bad. it's not unheard of for a big 12 team to put the ball up at 35-40 times a game. that is normally unheard of in the SEC. Daryl Royal used to say, "only three things can happen when you throw the ball..and two of them are bad"...times change and so has the big 12.
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1375 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 3:47 pm to
rbdallas is exactly right. While our QB is not perfect, our WR's are underperforming. You go back to last year, they did the same thing with Flynn trowing to them, the only one with any effort was Early, and he was hurt most of the year. That's why Flynn's stats looked so bad, but most to the people on here just wanted to blame him because he wasn't Russell (thank god he wasn't, we won NC).

I just don't seem to get the "blame it all on the QB, but give the WRs a pass" attitude on this board. The effort of our WRs is horrible. But you guys just think they are great, so its OK.
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1720 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 3:54 pm to
good point. I noticed on the replay of the Mitchell drop for a sure TD, that he got into his route, slowed up just a tad, then hit full speed and was a millimeter short, but still could have made the TD grab. If he runs full speed for the entire route, we just defeated the #1 team in the nation. That's a fact jack.
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10437 posts
Posted on 11/13/08 at 3:58 pm to
I have also noticed this, and respect your courage in posting it. I have noticed some outstanding catches, runs, defensive efforts, and individual efforts from other teams. It just seems like LSU is so absorbed with what is wrong that no one seems to be laying it out there. I've seen games where I think to myself about a team, "Wow, these guys really want this game." I have had moments when I've thought that about LSU, but they have been rare. IMO, that has to lie on the coaches. I think the atmosphere has been a negatively charged one at LSU this year and so much focus has been about everything but desire and motivation. I coach also and know too well that when you are having to coach the basics daily, it's easy to fail to prepare them emotionally for the game. I also believe their energy (or lack thereof) shows their lack in confidence in the teams leadership, whether that be on or off the field.
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 4:00 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112846 posts
Posted on 11/14/08 at 5:23 am to
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It just seems as if too many of GOOD catches are dropped.


It doesn't seem that way, it IS that way.

It seems like every year for 3 or 4 years now, our WRs have an insane amount of drops. I mean, look at the 4 or 5 drops we had against bama, one resulted in an INT that cost us 7 points, and the other was a dropped sure TD for another 7 points.
Posted by TigerNala
Birmingham
Member since Jan 2007
1049 posts
Posted on 11/14/08 at 5:59 am to
Maybe because the SEC has defenses with DBs that will knock your head off, and the Big 12 doesnt have defenses or DBs
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 11/14/08 at 6:33 am to
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Maybe because the SEC has defenses with DBs that will knock your head off, and the Big 12 doesnt have defenses or DBs


that excuse has already been listed...
not trying to be a smart arse, but can not believe
how we are willing to just look the other way to make us feel better......
our receivers would not start in any of the top 5 schools in the Big 12.
as much talent as they have, they are not using it.
Posted by head_w
Houma
Member since Aug 2005
302 posts
Posted on 11/14/08 at 6:51 am to
This was evident during the Georgia game. There receivers would go up and get the ball whereas our guys dont seem to quite want it as bad. Not defending Lee because he has had his share of bad passes but how many times do our receivers seem to not even try.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16806 posts
Posted on 11/14/08 at 7:14 am to
TT went up and snatch several balls way up high against bama and hes around 6'5
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