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re: Origins of Apathy: LSU Has Not Won a Big Game in Three Years
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:47 pm to chilge1
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:47 pm to chilge1
Nobody ever understands how huge psychological and motivational factors are in athletics. It's always a case of the bigger and faster guy dominating?
Are you just typing to hear yourself talk? What awesome insight you have. I'm going to have to ponder this query the next time I defecate.
Understanding football is a birthright for such priveliged few. I work hard at it. Maybe if I try harder?
Miles' philosophy, as best I can tell, is to line his boys up and do exactly that. Out- athlete the opponent. Because I don't see any significant gamesmanship, and never do you see a halftime adjustment.
We defer to the second half, and always have. What is the total number of points we've scored when getting the ball on that opening drive of the second half post Matt Flynn? We're trying to keep the ball out of the hands of Cameron Newton, yet we give them the ball first, too?
It is my contention that we are sub .500 when we line up against teams of likewise talent. Is it your contention then that we were not adequately psyched or motivated for these opponents? So, to whom shall we assess this blame.
The original poster merely points out that games we won back when the program garnered respect are no longer being won. Sure, we're winning some games. The kind of games that keep you from falling out of the top 25 for too long a period of time.
But, LSU has the groceries for a gourmet meal, and the chef serves Lucky Dogs.
Are you just typing to hear yourself talk? What awesome insight you have. I'm going to have to ponder this query the next time I defecate.
Understanding football is a birthright for such priveliged few. I work hard at it. Maybe if I try harder?
Miles' philosophy, as best I can tell, is to line his boys up and do exactly that. Out- athlete the opponent. Because I don't see any significant gamesmanship, and never do you see a halftime adjustment.
We defer to the second half, and always have. What is the total number of points we've scored when getting the ball on that opening drive of the second half post Matt Flynn? We're trying to keep the ball out of the hands of Cameron Newton, yet we give them the ball first, too?
It is my contention that we are sub .500 when we line up against teams of likewise talent. Is it your contention then that we were not adequately psyched or motivated for these opponents? So, to whom shall we assess this blame.
The original poster merely points out that games we won back when the program garnered respect are no longer being won. Sure, we're winning some games. The kind of games that keep you from falling out of the top 25 for too long a period of time.
But, LSU has the groceries for a gourmet meal, and the chef serves Lucky Dogs.
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Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:48 pm to jackson123
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Beating Texas this year would not be a quality win. It changes
Right, but beating a team also has affect on that.
Without losing to us, Florida is still a top 25 team.
I just don't think you are giving enough credence to the inter-season dynamics and the way one win or loss can drastically change the outcome of a season in many cases.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:52 pm to jackson123
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That's why you're paid $3.75MM a year. You find something innovative to fix it. Play Spencer Ware, RS, or Reuben Randle. Run the Wild Tiger with PP7. I don't care. Something to try and score. You don't just sit there and say well shite..
Should be interesting to see what happens.
You referenced Meyer changing their offense, but don't forget he didn't do that until their bye week.
Do I expect we will do something drastic? Not necessarily, but none of us know yet.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:53 pm to OBUDan
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I just don't think you are giving enough credence to the inter-season dynamics and the way one win or loss can drastically change the outcome of a season in many cases.
Just because Florida lost to us doesn't mean they should have lost to Miss. State. You can't use that as the reason they lost.
We're getting off track. The whole point of this thread is to beat a contender. We get two shots this year. Auburn and Alabama. Those are the big wins. Arkansas would be a solid but not great win. So there's the distinction.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:54 pm to OBUDan
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You referenced Meyer changing their offense, but don't forget he didn't do that until their bye week.
Well we just had a bye week. Will you admit if nothing happens that Miles is stubborn then?
Mike Sherman, Urban Meyer both made changes mid-season to try and spark something that wasn't working. Heck Mike Sherman benched the QB that was picked First Team All Big 12 Preseason. Miles continues to start a guy who hasn't thrown a TD pass since North Carolina. How in the world does that make sense?
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:56 pm to wahoocs
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So, to whom shall we assess this blame.
the blame clearly is on Miles, but I don't think it is simply because of some fundamental flaw in his overall coaching style...but primarily due to sticking with Crowton when he should have dumped him. It's pretty clear that over the past 2 seasons, an inept offense is the reason this team hasn't won the bigger games, it just can't get the job done in crunch time with this offense.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:57 pm to wahoocs
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teams of likewise talent.
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groceries for a gourmet meal
Tell me, what is it upon which you base these assumptions? Rivals? Scout? ESPN?
Is it not an equally valid assumption to suggest that our players are vastly overrated coming out of high school and that Miles is achieving greater success with the players than he ought? Or only the other way around?
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:58 pm to ForeLSU
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the blame clearly is on Miles, but I don't think it is simply because of some fundamental flaw in his overall coaching style...but primarily due to sticking with Crowton when he should have dumped him. It's pretty clear that over the past 2 seasons, an inept offense is the reason this team hasn't won the bigger games, it just can't get the job done in crunch time with this offense.
exactly
Posted on 11/2/10 at 5:59 pm to jackson123
Malzahn has the best QB in the conference and he had Kodi Burns throw the ball to him last week. It's called being innovative. And heck they don't even have to be.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:07 pm to lsufan112001
Thank you for recognizing, and it's good to know that at least one person reading this was worthy of the post.
They don't get it. Mostly due to lack of foresight. The bottom line has a way of affecting change. Those who can't see it, are more than likely not a significant part of the bottom line.
They don't get it. Mostly due to lack of foresight. The bottom line has a way of affecting change. Those who can't see it, are more than likely not a significant part of the bottom line.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:11 pm to jackson123
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Mike Sherman, Urban Meyer both made changes mid-season to try and spark something that wasn't working. Heck Mike Sherman benched the QB that was picked First Team All Big 12 Preseason
what are their records compared to LSU this season? Miles is trying to manage around a lemon of an offense and still grab a BCS bowl bid. It's the first week in November and he still has a shot. Although it is a lemon, tinkering, at this point, is more risky than riding it out.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:16 pm to wahoocs
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His wife is off this weekend, so I invited him to come with me and use one of my tickets, free of charge. He said he'd rather watch it on TV and help with the kids.
"rather watch it on TV and help with the kids" translates to "wife told me to forget about the pussy if I go to the game"
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:18 pm to ForeLSU
I have a problem with a coach who needs the highest paid coordinators to keep him afloat, when he is paid at the highest level of his profession.
Maybe it's just me, but when I bomb on my choice of co-coordinators on defense and fire that side of the ball one year, it would be a hard sell to come back the next year and do the same on the other side of the ball.
And, if that's what needed to be done, my 4 million dollar salary has to be called into question. But, for argument's sake, let's say that's the case.
Don't you think the least I could do is manage the frickin' clock?
It is a fundamental flaw in his coaching style.
Maybe it's just me, but when I bomb on my choice of co-coordinators on defense and fire that side of the ball one year, it would be a hard sell to come back the next year and do the same on the other side of the ball.
And, if that's what needed to be done, my 4 million dollar salary has to be called into question. But, for argument's sake, let's say that's the case.
Don't you think the least I could do is manage the frickin' clock?
It is a fundamental flaw in his coaching style.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:23 pm to wahoocs
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And, if that's what needed to be done, my 4 million dollar salary has to be called into question. But, for argument's sake, let's say that's the case.
don't get me wrong, I think he should be held accountable for not firing Crowton last year. If the team loses 3 of the remaining 4 and finishes in the 100's again in total offense, I would be all for firing Miles. The clock management issues are a minor issue compared to the overall ineptness of the offense that past 2 years.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:30 pm to ForeLSU
not this guy
He married at 40, at the Vatican, after considering the seminary.
He practices the rhythmic method, and has had 3 children in 4 years.
He ain't getting shite, either way.
He married at 40, at the Vatican, after considering the seminary.
He practices the rhythmic method, and has had 3 children in 4 years.
He ain't getting shite, either way.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:34 pm to wahoocs
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He ain't getting shite, either way.
then I'd guess he is a prototypical Lafayette LSU fan who went to USL and probably has more Saints gear than LSU gear...no self-respecting LSU fan would turn down a free ticket to an LSU-Bama game to "help with the kids".
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:47 pm to ForeLSU
i did not graduate from LSU. Many years ago my son(on his own,chose to play for LSU),although we were out of state.I did not try to influence him. I was happy that he did, although it was a rough time in the program. I learned to love the LSU fans and the program(although we did not experience much success). I think that much of the crap we here is from those that are late arriving on the train............and they can kiss my old arse.........Go Tigers
Posted on 11/2/10 at 6:56 pm to ForeLSU
LSU graduate.
He's that down right now.
But, I do think he has made an attempt to re-prioritize since taking on a growing family, too.
I travel to at least 2 away games every year. The Ole Miss game last year caused me to rethink this strategy. I went to Atlanta for N.Carolina at the last minute, because it was the only chance I would have to see one of the guys who usually comes in for the Alabama or Florida game every year. He said he wasn't coming this year.
I'd like to go to Dallas and Morgantown next year, but it's a wait and see attitude right now with my gang.
The clock management issues are really on top of my list. It has really called into question everything. Miles brought that microscope upon himself. Even the little things that could possibly be forgiven in the benefit of the doubt, have become magnified.
It might not be fair, but it is what it is. He doesn't do himself any favors. Repeated disorganizaton after being told that organization was not one of his strong points is just too much for me to accept.
He's that down right now.
But, I do think he has made an attempt to re-prioritize since taking on a growing family, too.
I travel to at least 2 away games every year. The Ole Miss game last year caused me to rethink this strategy. I went to Atlanta for N.Carolina at the last minute, because it was the only chance I would have to see one of the guys who usually comes in for the Alabama or Florida game every year. He said he wasn't coming this year.
I'd like to go to Dallas and Morgantown next year, but it's a wait and see attitude right now with my gang.
The clock management issues are really on top of my list. It has really called into question everything. Miles brought that microscope upon himself. Even the little things that could possibly be forgiven in the benefit of the doubt, have become magnified.
It might not be fair, but it is what it is. He doesn't do himself any favors. Repeated disorganizaton after being told that organization was not one of his strong points is just too much for me to accept.
Posted on 11/2/10 at 7:00 pm to wahoocs
can you read or did you graduate from ULL
Posted on 11/2/10 at 7:04 pm to archercurley
Do you really have something to discuss?
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