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Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:13 pm to JohnnyU
It really is. Dude was nucking futs back then. His record alarmed me until a did some reading on how much the man changed after that.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:13 pm to JohnnyU
Of course it is but these entitled stupid idiots don't believe that
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:14 pm to jtweezy
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Why didn't we hire Curly Hallman? Sure he was terrible here, but that was a long time ago so it's irrelevant. He's had even more time than O to learn from his mistakes.
Mmm hmm. Yeah sure. That would be the exact same thing. Okay.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:16 pm to JohnnyU
Why is it irrelevant? If you were given a list with 3 possible candidates for the LSU HC vacancy, and all it contained was their past bodies of work, no names and nothing about where they previously coached, would you really have chosen Orgeron over Fisher and Herman?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 12:23 pm to LSU Jax
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Mmm hmm. Yeah sure. That would be the exact same thing. Okay.
Just making a point that people saying it's irrelevant are idiots. Why are people so low on Hallman? Because of his past. Why are people so high on Saban? Because of his past.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:52 pm to JohnnyU
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Orgeron's record at Ole Miss is irrelevant
It's not irrelevant; it's just not nearly as relevant as some people who appear to be obsessed with it around here would lead you to believe.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:56 pm to TigerGA
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had a bad run a decade ago at one of the hardest schools in the SEC to have a winning record.
So just 2 years before hiring O they won 10 games and finished top 15. The lengths some of you will go to try to convince yourself this was a good hire is astounding.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:58 pm to arktiger28
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It really is. Dude was nucking futs back then. His record alarmed me until a did some reading on how much the man changed after that.
Please enlighten me to all the great wins he has had at HC since then. And no interim HC doesnt constitue running a program.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:58 pm to Rickdaddy4188
And one year before O they lost to Wyoming and Memphis 
that program was an bad as it gets when he took over.
that program was an bad as it gets when he took over. 
Posted on 11/27/16 at 1:59 pm to Godfather1
Everyone is getting older everyday genius. Some of you'll are complete morons.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:06 pm to JohnnyU
I agree.. A good OC hire and top 3 class should ignite enthusiasm.. I hope O becomes our Cajun dabo. O actually did better w-l wise at both USC and Lsu than dabo as interim at Clemson.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
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And one year before O they lost to Wyoming and Memphis that program was an bad as it gets when he took over.
As bad as it was, o made it worse. Let that sink in.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:08 pm to TheHat7
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O actually did better w-l wise at both USC and Lsu than dabo as interim at Clemson.
Dabo took over a program that had ZERO top 20 finishes since 2000. This isnt the same. Dabo was actually running the offense during his interim tenure.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:09 pm to JohnnyU
Agree with this. I think his 12-4 record as interim head coach is way more relevant, regardless of whether you were for or against the hire.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:12 pm to JohnnyU
Let's fast forward a year from now....
"Orgeron's record last year is irrelevant. We had a first year OC. Wait until he gets a new one."
FF another year...
"Orgeron's record in year 2 is irrelevant, we have a new D.C."
Orgeron's is being held to different standards thN Miles or any other head coach or potential head coach. He will be impossible to get rid of.
"Orgeron's record last year is irrelevant. We had a first year OC. Wait until he gets a new one."
FF another year...
"Orgeron's record in year 2 is irrelevant, we have a new D.C."
Orgeron's is being held to different standards thN Miles or any other head coach or potential head coach. He will be impossible to get rid of.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:14 pm to Putty
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Agree with this. I think his 12-4 record as interim head coach is way more relevant, regardless of whether you were for or against the hire.
Wait so his record during times when he wasn't in charge of a program are more important than those where he was in charge of a whole program???
:rotflmao:Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:21 pm to Freauxzen
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Wait so his record during times when he wasn't in charge of a program are more important than those where he was in charge of a whole program???
It's mind blowing.
You have lsu posters touting how we looked on offense this year once miles was fired and in the same post talk about O getting a real OC. I wish someone would tell me how the frick a dline coach is getting credit for out offense.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 2:24 pm to Freauxzen
Interim stints show how he performs with a full cupboard of talent. Which is what he will have at lsu. Ole miss was as talent barren as you could imagine cutcliffe has no recruiting ability.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:25 pm to atltiger6487
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So all it takes to get a HC job at LSU is to fail spectacularly at your only prior permanent HC gig, and then say you've learned?
Can you imagine any other elite football program having this mindset?
I didn't say I agree with it, but I'm just being fair. I think he has to do more than let the coaches do their jobs as I said. He has to know how to manage games, know when to step in, push buttons, etc. Removing Cam Cameron and Peveto are two steps in the right direction though.
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