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Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:00 am to JohnnyU
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I am not comparing O to either of these guys but Belichick and Carroll were failures in their first head coaching gigs. They both have pretty good resumes now.
Spot on here too. I've mentioned both of these guys when talking to people about Orgeron.
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That is the recipe that Dabo has used at Clemson. Dabo is no Saban or Meyer. He's hired good coordinators, let them do their job and he has recruited well.
Dabo too. I thought he was nothing but a goofy arse cheerleader in his first couple of seasons as head coach, but he has evolved and has Clemson at a pretty elite level right now.
ETA: Meant to address the Ole Miss record too. It's absolutely irrelevant. We're talking 10 years ago. And coaches can learn a TON from failed gigs, as you referenced with Belichick and Carroll.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:01 am to JohnnyU
Next time you interview for a job, if you failed spectacularly at a previous job, just tell them it's irrelevant. See what they say.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:02 am to JohnnyU
Belicheck.
Carroll.
Orgeron.
One of these things is not like the others.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 11:03 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:04 am to JohnnyU
why is it irrelevant now? you guys fricking laughed at ole miss for having such a failure of a head coach, now we're deleting it from the records. is Hillary in charge of his recordkeeping or something?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:04 am to Brendoni
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nope
That all you can say? Why is it not irrelevant?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:06 am to TigerGA
Not an O basher, I'm an Alleva basher because, among several other reasons:
A talented negotiator would have been able to pull one of these targets to LSU. Unless of course this isn't an elite job. Looking around the NFL and being located in the fertile recruiting ground we are, I don't see how that's possible.
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Jimbo was never coming and Herman got a better offer
A talented negotiator would have been able to pull one of these targets to LSU. Unless of course this isn't an elite job. Looking around the NFL and being located in the fertile recruiting ground we are, I don't see how that's possible.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:12 am to BayouBengals327
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Miles' biggest problem was that he couldn't change and adapt. O has acknowledged specifically what he did wrong at Ole Miss and made effective corrections to how he coaches. He is in no way the same guy he was at Ole Miss. He's also been on staff with a few championship coaches. He's seen what works, what doesn't work and proved to the administration that he has the plan to get us where we need to be.
Very well stated!!!
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:17 am to Mo Jeaux
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For your next job review, tell your boss that your performance during your last review period is irrelevant.
Ten years ago is his last review period? You motherfrickers are some kind of obtuse. You too Egg, this is for both of you and anyone else pounding the same drum.
Do you stupid fricks really think that a coach can't take some SERIOUS lessons from a failed gig??? How fricking dumb are you fricking dolts? BayouBengals327 stated it best so I'll just quote what he said:
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Miles' biggest problem was that he couldn't change and adapt. O has acknowledged specifically what he did wrong at Ole Miss and made effective corrections to how he coaches. He is in no way the same guy he was at Ole Miss. He's also been on staff with a few championship coaches. He's seen what works, what doesn't work and proved to the administration that he has the plan to get us where we need to be.
Can you fricking idiots grasp that this is most likely very accurate???
Mo Jeaux, you outed yourself in the thread I started as one of those who will not cheer for the Tigers now because of this hire. So you can go frick yourself.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:19 am to LSU Jax
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"Miles' biggest problem was that he couldn't change and adapt. O has acknowledged specifically what he did wrong at Ole Miss and made effective corrections to how he coaches. He is in no way the same guy he was at Ole Miss. He's also been on staff with a few championship coaches. He's seen what works, what doesn't work and proved to the administration that he has the plan to get us where we need to be."
Can you fricking idiots grasp that this is most likely very accurate???
It's still all supposition. Lighten up, Francis.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 11:20 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:20 am to JohnnyU
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I am not comparing O to either of these guys but Belichick and Carroll were failures in their first head coaching gigs.
No they were not.
And both were elite coordinators in the NFL.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:23 am to TheCaterpillar
Belichick still has the last browns playoff win
They were both better than their predecessor and successor.
Orgeron is worse than anyone that has ever coached at ole miss and got worse as it became more "his program"
Putting these 3 names in a sentence should result in a permaban.
They were both better than their predecessor and successor.
Orgeron is worse than anyone that has ever coached at ole miss and got worse as it became more "his program"
Putting these 3 names in a sentence should result in a permaban.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:26 am to JohnnyU
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You're a fricking child!
Settle down, Sweet Tits.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:28 am to parrotdr
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Lighten up, Francis.
Nope. Mo Jeaux's only response to me in my thread I started about the "fans" who are done with LSU over this hire was to say "frick you". So no. Not gonna lighten up on that. frick him.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:29 am to JohnnyU
I started a thread about this earlier this year. If OM had kept O for a 4th year, he would still be there. Houston Nuttsack won with CEOs recruits for a few years and then, well, he got canned.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:38 am to Big EZ Tiger
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However, it was a long time ago and LSU has more talent than Ole Miss. He says he has learned to delegate now and let coaches do their jobs.
So all it takes to get a HC job at LSU is to fail spectacularly at your only prior permanent HC gig, and then say you've learned?
Can you imagine any other elite football program having this mindset?
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:45 am to atltiger6487
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So all it takes to get a HC job at LSU is to fail spectacularly at your only prior permanent HC gig, and then say you've learned?
Oh yeeahh!!! Of course that's all it took. Nothing else was weighed except his performance at Ole Miss and his explanation of it. Yep. That's all.
You people are fricking idiots!!!
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:46 am to LSU Jax
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Ten years ago is his last review period? You motherfrickers are some kind of obtuse. You too Egg, this is for both of you and anyone else pounding the same drum.
Do you stupid fricks really think that a coach can't take some SERIOUS lessons from a failed gig??? How fricking dumb are you fricking dolts? BayouBengals327 stated it best so I'll just quote what he said:
He may have learned his lesson and be a better coach, but are you ok with LSU being that experiment?
I mean, we want to be viewed as a potentially top 5 program, and our strategy for hiring a coach is to hope a guy learned his lesson 10 years ago?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:54 am to rintintin
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I mean, we want to be viewed as a potentially top 5 program, and our strategy for hiring a coach is to hope a guy learned his lesson 10 years ago?
I think it's a good bit more than hope. Clearly the admin feels confident that he did learn from his experience.
I'm not saying at all that this is a slam dunk hire. That remains to be seen of course, but there were no slam dunks available. Not even Jimbo or Herman were surefire slam dunks, and I think O is probably not much more of a stretch than anybody else below those two that was attainable.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 11:58 am to LSU Jax
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Clearly the admin feels confident that he did learn from his experience.
well Alleva has shown this year that he's incompetent and has the emotional stability of a 15 year old girl
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