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Orgeron has optimism bias
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:41 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:41 am
Consider these examples
1. When Orgeron was named permanent HC he offered the #1 HS QB, and Bama commit, a scholarship. This shook up Myles Brennan and Lowell Narcisse, and I believe that both decommitted. What happened? It seems that Orgeron was talking to Lane Kiffen about being our OC. Lane had secured TUA's committment to Bama, and he probably told Orgeron that Tua would switch to LSU if Lane did.
2. At the end of the recent recruiting season Orgeron turned away some solid talent (e.g. Adarius and Goodrich) because he thought Surtain, Chase and Foster were in the bag.
Both of these instances show a shocking overconfidence and lack of prudence. These are only two examples in a - so far - short HC gig, but they might portend a dangerous pattern. Is Orgeron delusional?
1. When Orgeron was named permanent HC he offered the #1 HS QB, and Bama commit, a scholarship. This shook up Myles Brennan and Lowell Narcisse, and I believe that both decommitted. What happened? It seems that Orgeron was talking to Lane Kiffen about being our OC. Lane had secured TUA's committment to Bama, and he probably told Orgeron that Tua would switch to LSU if Lane did.
2. At the end of the recent recruiting season Orgeron turned away some solid talent (e.g. Adarius and Goodrich) because he thought Surtain, Chase and Foster were in the bag.
Both of these instances show a shocking overconfidence and lack of prudence. These are only two examples in a - so far - short HC gig, but they might portend a dangerous pattern. Is Orgeron delusional?
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:42 am to Penrod
It just seems like he makes a lot of decisions on the fly, almost as if he has no real plan at all.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:44 am to Penrod
Give me an example that doesn't involve recruiting. Just curious to what optimism bias looks like without it
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:51 am to Brazos
They're still working out the appendices im the binder
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:52 am to Penrod
O has always been in over his head.
He gets way too much credit for taking over two very talented teams during a season and having them play lose and win a few games they should have won regardless. He’s not a guy to run a program. Literally no other program in America would hire him as HC. It’s ridiculous he actually got this gig.
He gets way too much credit for taking over two very talented teams during a season and having them play lose and win a few games they should have won regardless. He’s not a guy to run a program. Literally no other program in America would hire him as HC. It’s ridiculous he actually got this gig.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:58 am to Penrod
It comes across as flakey.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:59 am to Penrod
He has being a moron bias disease
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:03 am to Penrod
I believe he thinks he has more credibility than he has.
He sees himself as Pete Caroll, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer equals with out the skins on the wall. It’s why he’s shocked/surprised when people don’t trust him, follow what he says or a recruit goes another was.
He hasn’t realized that stature is earned over time. To get there you have to have a plan, grind against all to execute it. As the wins mount, the respect grows.
To me, he’s a typical Cajun. Always name dropping, talking extreme, heights (I get the best coaching staff/o.c. in the country) without nothing to back it up. Otherwise, quit talking the talk and focus on walking the walk.
He has some good qualities, he is a good talent evaluater, great Dline coach, personable guy. Play to those strengths, hire competent people to take care of the other stuff that isn’t your strength. This takes trust though, which is something he obviosly struggles with.
He sees himself as Pete Caroll, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer equals with out the skins on the wall. It’s why he’s shocked/surprised when people don’t trust him, follow what he says or a recruit goes another was.
He hasn’t realized that stature is earned over time. To get there you have to have a plan, grind against all to execute it. As the wins mount, the respect grows.
To me, he’s a typical Cajun. Always name dropping, talking extreme, heights (I get the best coaching staff/o.c. in the country) without nothing to back it up. Otherwise, quit talking the talk and focus on walking the walk.
He has some good qualities, he is a good talent evaluater, great Dline coach, personable guy. Play to those strengths, hire competent people to take care of the other stuff that isn’t your strength. This takes trust though, which is something he obviosly struggles with.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:07 am to Penrod
Lane wasn’t Tua’s recruiter. Tosh Lupoi was. O has no idea what’s going on.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:24 am to Penrod
Orgeron is a potato.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:47 am to Brazos
quote:
he has no real plan at all
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:50 am to Penrod
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Both of these instances show a shocking overconfidence and lack of prudence
no they don't.
you don't have near enough credible information to make this claim. this tells me you are a fraud and not a legitimate psychologist.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:55 am to Penrod
O is still trying to figure out how to be a HC, plain and simple. In short, he has no idea at all if what he is doing will work. Makes me wanna 
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:56 am to Penrod
His unearned ego is one of the most bizarre aspects of his personality.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:01 am to Penrod
Was thinking this same thing but couldn't put a label on it.
He only ever considers the best possible outcome and never prepares for the most likely or negative outcome. His horde thinks the same way.
It's great to have belief in yourself but not to the point that it clouds rational judgement, which for O seems to be frequently. That's the definition of delusion.
He only ever considers the best possible outcome and never prepares for the most likely or negative outcome. His horde thinks the same way.
It's great to have belief in yourself but not to the point that it clouds rational judgement, which for O seems to be frequently. That's the definition of delusion.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 9:06 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:26 am to Blanky6715
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Give me an example that doesn't involve recruiting. Just curious to what optimism bias looks like without it
Salesmen who always overestimate the chances of a sale going through. In my business we do construction projects. We used to partner with a construction company. Sometimes they would bring deals to us. This one guy, Randy, would always say, "This one's almost a done deal." Of course, most of those never happened.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:28 am to LSU GrandDad
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you don't have near enough credible information to make this claim. this tells me you are a fraud and not a legitimate psychologist.
Well, I could have told you that.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:29 am to Penrod
What if Kiffin hadn't been offered the head coaching job, came here and landed Tua? TD would be overjoyed right now: we would have an OC everyone thinks is great, a top-notch QB, AND Alabama would not have won the national championship game.
Seems to me, that is a chance O should have taken. It is just unfortunate FAU was stupid enough/smart enough to take a chance on Kiffin. I think O made the right move there, it just didn't work out. Hindsight is 20/20.
Seems to me, that is a chance O should have taken. It is just unfortunate FAU was stupid enough/smart enough to take a chance on Kiffin. I think O made the right move there, it just didn't work out. Hindsight is 20/20.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:38 am to ChEgrad
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What if Kiffin hadn't been offered the head coaching job, came here and landed Tua? TD would be overjoyed right now: we would have an OC everyone thinks is great, a top-notch QB, AND Alabama would not have won the national championship game
We could play the "what if" game forever. Those were low probability events. There was never any indication that Lane was coming here. And Orgeron wasn't going to swoop in at the last moment and steal the top ranked QB in the country from Bama.
I can win the next Powerball. Just because something technically can happen doesn't mean its worth your while to try. We almost lost two QBs because of Orgeron's stunt, when we have a difficult enough time as it is getting QBs.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:07 am to Goldrush25
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We could play the "what if" game forever. Those were low probability events. There was never any indication that Lane was coming here.
Had FAU not offered Kiffin the head coaching job, I think the probability that Kiffin comes to LSU was very high.
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