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re: Orgeron did better in his first season than Saban did in his 3rd?
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:21 pm to ThePaleHorse
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:21 pm to ThePaleHorse
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but I cant stand when people say ignorant things. Grow up.
We have a thread about how Os first season was better than Sabans 3rd without any context. O fans constantly claiming O critics would rather be right than see O win and you single out my response to that as an ignorant comment ?
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:22 pm to ThePaleHorse
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That people like you think our program is rock bottom
To be fair, the program is not at rock bottom... yet. Give O another year or two and it will be though.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:22 pm to Dave England
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Some of us knew he would be a disaster before he was hired and his time as both interim and head coach have done nothing to dispel that notion.
I'm a skeptical as the next guy about Orgeron, but disasterous??? Cmon man. Do you lie to yourself about everything in your life?
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:23 pm to BilJ
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I've done more than plant seeds, I've planted a flag in my belief that we hired a total fraud. I would prefer he prove me wrong and I eat endless amounts of crow vs. the possible rebuild we're facing in the wake of the damage he'll have done to the program by the time he's ousted
This. Hiring O will result in a 5-10 year serious decline in LSU football. And every year he is here, every year recruiting suffers because of him will most likely add 2 additional years to the recovery.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:25 pm to Dave England
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To be fair
Ah...there we go. Reality. I agree with you here on the idea of letting the reality play out. And we may very well be rock bottom one day. But I doubt it.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:25 pm to ThePaleHorse
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That people like you think our program is rock bottom.
WRONG!!!
We don't think the program has hit rock bottom...yet. That's the problem with O, he hasn't finished fricking it up yet.
Whoever comes next will have a monumental rebuild on his hands.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:26 pm to ThePaleHorse
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but disasterous??? Cmon man
-Worst loss to Mississippi state in program history
-Loss to Troy, first Sun Belt loss in program history
-Signed the worst recruiting class LSU has had in 16 years
-Fired handpicked OC after one season after meddling in the offense
-Hired a career TE coach, who didn't want the job, as OC
That's all within a year. How else would you care to classify his tenure thus far?
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:32 pm to memphis tiger
a shame too because the state is loaded next year, if we're a 6-7 win team, Bama, UGA and A&M may feast. If you don't fire Ed after that, they can basically say you're signing up to play for a guy who at most has one year left.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:34 pm to memphis tiger
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Hiring O will result in a 5-10 year serious decline in LSU football. And every year he is here, every year recruiting suffers because of him will most likely add 2 additional years to the recovery.
Here is where a disagree. IF (Big If) But IF we make the right hire history shows you can turn things around very quickly. This thread mentions Sabans 3rd year, we all remember his 4th and he took over a program that had 8 losing seasons in 11 years and won the SEC year 2. Hell even Gerry D who ultimately proved to be a bad coach went 10-2 tied for first in the SECW in year 2 after 6 straight losing seasons before him and finished just outside the top 10. Similar things have happened elsewhere. Stoops at OU Carroll at USC
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:36 pm to BilJ
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I've done more than plant seeds, I've planted a flag in my belief that we hired a total fraud. I would prefer he prove me wrong and I eat endless amounts of crow vs. the possible rebuild we're facing in the wake of the damage he'll have done to the program by the time he's ousted
and you may end up being right.. the future has not yet been written...
but if he succeeds, come back.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:37 pm to Dave England
Not disasterous.
18th ranking in the country. Yep, this sounds like a disaster. Is it #1? No.
You actually said disasterous? Wow!
I hope this team gets better and better so you have something to be happy about.
18th ranking in the country. Yep, this sounds like a disaster. Is it #1? No.
You actually said disasterous? Wow!
I hope this team gets better and better so you have something to be happy about.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
You are somewhat right that the right hire can quickly turn things around, but the post you quoted hit the right point: recruiting. If O drops the ball on the 2019 class, which is looking more and more likely, that's two years of sub-par classes, i.e. half of your team down the line. That is a lot for a new coach to overcome.
After Miles was fired, the table was set for an accomplished or up-and-coming coach to slide in and build off of an already solid roster. Unfortunately that opportunity was squandered terribly on O. Just have to hope the guy who comes in after O is canned doesn't have to do too much rebuilding.
After Miles was fired, the table was set for an accomplished or up-and-coming coach to slide in and build off of an already solid roster. Unfortunately that opportunity was squandered terribly on O. Just have to hope the guy who comes in after O is canned doesn't have to do too much rebuilding.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:44 pm to memphis tiger
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We don't think the program has hit rock bottom...yet.
Quit making things up. You have no clue what is going to happen. I cant stand people who make up fake info and stats. And then use them as the basis of your argument.
You are getting your panties twisted over something that is not true.
Thats borderline lunacy.
Screw it...Everytime you mention something made up, I'm just going to respond with... "Not True"!
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
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single out my response to that as an ignorant commen
Yes, you are correct!
Oh, dont worry, I dont like ignorant comments on either side of the equation here. But from my point of view, the O-lovers are saying things that are facts or positive opinion...but not ignorant.
The O-haters mostly are making things up and using it as a basis for a debate. Its moronic.
Look, I'm skeptical too about Orgeron, but I'm not going to say Orgeron is a disaster, Our team is horrible and next season our record will be 6-7.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:54 pm to ThePaleHorse
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But from my point of view, the O-lovers are saying things that are facts or positive opinion...but not ignorant.
The O-haters mostly are making things up and using it as a basis for a debate. Its moronic.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
to be fair, those names you listed (Sabes, Carroll, and Stoops) are among some of the greats of all time.
if O allows the state to be raided next year that's 3 cycles in a row of meh recruiting.
Oh and the "O loves LSU" crowd we'll see how much he loves this school once its clear he's out, that guy will tank and poison the well on his way out.
if O allows the state to be raided next year that's 3 cycles in a row of meh recruiting.
Oh and the "O loves LSU" crowd we'll see how much he loves this school once its clear he's out, that guy will tank and poison the well on his way out.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:59 pm to ThePaleHorse
“You have no clue”
I have a clue that the program appears to be headed in the wrong direction. Most people see the same and it’s disturbing.
When you cause trama to your program by releasing a successful coach, you damn well better do better and not the same or worse.
I have a clue that the program appears to be headed in the wrong direction. Most people see the same and it’s disturbing.
When you cause trama to your program by releasing a successful coach, you damn well better do better and not the same or worse.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 12:59 pm to ThePaleHorse
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the O-lovers are saying things that are facts or positive opinion...but not ignorant.
The O-haters mostly are making things up and using it as a basis for a debate.
I'm wondering if you accidentally wrote this backwards because it's completely the other way around and has been. I mean, there's a thread on the first page claiming that O is a better coach than Saban was at LSU.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 1:01 pm to boxcar willie
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these people have a hard time understanding facts LSUMIKEV. They don't want to hear the truth.
Do you think Ed Orgeron is a better coach than Nick Saban? Simple question.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 1:04 pm to ThePaleHorse
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Quit making things up. You have no clue what is going to happen. I cant stand people who make up fake info and stats. And then use them as the basis of your argument.
You are getting your panties twisted over something that is not true.
Thats borderline lunacy
Proactive vs. Reactive. Some people are the former, others the latter.
It's not too complicated. You should read up.
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