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re: Opting out for fear of injury is a weak excuse.

Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:33 am to
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1636 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:33 am to
My take is this and it will probably be unpopular but I don’t care.My thought is this if you are projected a top 10 pick then opt out before the season or during it don’t wait till end of season an bail on your team,opt out before it gets down to that an let your back up get the reps they need an experience they need so your team is in a better position without you.I think you will see NIL deals with clauses for opting out of bowls and transferring and a number of things.This whole deal is turning college football into a circus.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:35 am to
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Easy for you to say when you don’t have millions of dollars to consider.


Most of these kids get terrible advice from people seeking to profit from them outside of the program, and many cost themselves money and draft status.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:37 am to
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This whole deal is turning college football into a circus.


Yep, it will destroy the game.

In fact, it already is.
Posted by oldtrucker
Marianna, Fl
Member since Apr 2013
3008 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:37 am to
Sure glad that the millions of blue collar workers in our society haven't op-ed out.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4879 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:38 am to
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Easy for you to say when you don’t have millions of dollars to consider.


You really think TDP, Flott, York, etc are risking millions? The only one on this team that could risk anything is Clark
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6497 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:39 am to
I wonder how many Armchair Quarterbacks have actually played a meaningful game?
Talk is cheap, it takes money to buy Dom.
Posted by BigDaddy5151
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2013
585 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:40 am to
"who cares its their life"

we care about lsu footbal. we are on tigerdroppings.

if we didn't care we would be doing something else with time.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86333 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:40 am to
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Who cares
I don't think this means what you think it means.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:40 am to
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You really think TDP, Flott, York, etc are risking millions? The only one on this team that could risk anything is Clark


Correct. Clark is really the only person who has solid reason to bail.

Everyone else is losing an opportunity to shine and improve their status.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:40 am to
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Finally, seventh-round picks secure a salary ranging from $638,424 to $628,873. The first seventh-round pick is paid a $638,424 salary and a four-year, $3.4 million contract. The final pick of the NFL draft is often referred to as Mr. Irrelevant but the player still receives a $628,873 salary as part of a four-year, $3.37 million contract.
as long as they are drafted and make the team, yes
Posted by slimySand
225
Member since Aug 2018
885 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:42 am to
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Let's say you are a top 5 pick. You get hurt and fall to ten. You just lost 12 mill.



And most of the time, a top 5 pick usually means a bottom 5 team.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33943 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:51 am to
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Who cares, it’s their life


It is the individual's decision. Thus, I can't say he is "wrong" even if, as a fan, I don't like it.

However, it is the insignificance of the bowl games that drive the decision. You don't see guys "opting out" of the NCAA Tournament (you do in the NIT). You don't see guys opting out of conference championship games. You don't see guys opting out of the playoffs. The reason is because they feel there is incentive to play for something. Or in other words, the reward outweighs the risk.

Other than pride, there is not a ton to play for in the Texas Bowl. There is no moving closer to a championship if you win the game. Win or lose, it is the same result...the season ends.

As an adult you wish you could make kids realize that these moments, even if it is an "insignificant game", are precious and few. And once they are gone you don't get them back. But youth is wasted on the young. They live in the moment and see the potential riches of pro football available and feel going through another 2-3 weeks of practice, after spending the last 4 months grinding, is just not worth it.

However, I'm NEVER going to get mad at a kid for making what he thinks is the best decision for him just because it lessens MY enjoyment of watching the game.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 9:57 am to
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Finally, seventh-round picks secure a salary ranging from $638,424 to $628,873. The first seventh-round pick is paid a $638,424 salary and a four-year, $3.4 million contract. The final pick of the NFL draft is often referred to as Mr. Irrelevant but the player still receives a $628,873 salary as part of a four-year, $3.37 million contract.

as long as they are drafted and make the team, yes

So, even if they're the last pick in the draft, they can make pretty nice money. Doesn't seem very risky to play then if they are truly good enough to be drafted.

Odds are most players who opt out could make themselves more money by playing, and playing well, than getting seriously injured. Not everyone can be a high draft pick.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294390 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:01 am to
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So, even if they're the last pick in the draft, they can make pretty nice money


Which they would do regardless.

A bowl game like tonight is the perfect opportunity to improve draft stock, or position for next season.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
18847 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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Which they would do regardless.



If they're a projected late round pick going into tonight and tear an ACL there is a very good chance that they are not drafted at all.

It's not your life, nor your potential earnings.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161245 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:10 am to
Bowl games do very little to improve stock, they make fans feel "happy" though
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:12 am to
Exactly my point. I get why some elite players would opt out, but not all these guys.

Jarrett Guarantano opted out of the Sun Bowl, and he wasn't even starting for Wazzu anymore. Of course their starting QB went down during the game, so Guarantano would've had a final opportunity to play.
Posted by BigTiger1212
Member since Nov 2021
10 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:19 am to
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Nah, they made a commitment


Who made a commitment? I have never seen a player commit to playing any specific number of games for any college teams. Signing day just passed and not one player committed to LSU for 4 years. They play at their school of choice for as long as they choose. The school also does not commit to the player for 4 years as that scholarship has to be renewed every year. Why do folks get mad when they leave early or decide not play? People are free to do what they want. If someone wakes up tomorrow and decides they no longer want to play football then they don't have to play.
Posted by BayouBengals90
Nashville
Member since Jan 2009
2008 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:43 am to
Talk about it when it’s your money to gamble with.
Posted by thinkthenspeak
Member since Nov 2021
89 posts
Posted on 1/4/22 at 10:46 am to
you nailed it man, as a fan I would like to see them play but I'd never get mad at a kid for opting out.

I think the importance of playing in a bowl game various greatly from player to player. There are lots of things in play - draft probability, pride, risk of injury, is there eligibility left? etc.

If we are being honest, the vast majority of bowl exhibition games really don't mean squat. Their only purpose is to make a handful of people and businesses money. As you said, there's a reason why you never see players opt out of the NCAA tourney - there is a value to it. The FBS has never had that. All there is for the majority of FBS players is the goal of winning your conference and that's it.
This post was edited on 1/4/22 at 10:54 am
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