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re: Opinion on Hugh Freeze as a OC or O-Analyst?

Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:19 am to
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:19 am to
Coaches who have gotten domestic violence injunctions for beating women and felony battery charges for bar fights have gotten second chances. And they never knocked off Bama.

So why not Freeze?
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6834 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:24 am to
Miles did it.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25515 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:39 am to
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How many people have beat Nick saban 2 times in 10 years?


Less beat him 3 times, in 5 years.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:41 am to
He’d have to get the ok from the SEC offices first. Does it help LSU and not Bama? Probably a no go for them then
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:49 am to
Yea other than les, and it was a long time since les beat him. Hugh was able to beat saban 2, almost 3 times in 3 years with significantly less talent that LSU.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:51 am to
Yea with equal talent, and during a time period where power I was a good offensive game plan, you see what that got him, 5 losses in 4 years?
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:51 am to
He is allowed to be anything but a head coach under his probation. He doesn't have any other restrictions I'm aware of.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11906 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:53 am to
Guy is a brilliant offensive mind and I’d be all for getting him on staff
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:55 am to
quote:

He doesn't have any other restrictions I'm aware of.


Not officially, no. But it was reported that the SEC office squashed Saban hiring Freeze as an analyst back in the spring.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:55 am to
quote:

He is allowed to be anything but a head coach under his probation. He doesn't have any other restrictions I'm aware of.



the SEC stopped Bama from adding him as an analyst. and a couple of SEC schools - LSU included - apparently had some interest in him as OC.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18668 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:58 am to
I think as an analyst where he doesn’t have contact with players is his best bet to get back in coaching.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30259 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:00 am to
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How many people have beat Nick saban 2 times in 10 years?



Coaches who beat Saban at Alabama

Les Miles 3
Urban Meyer 2
Gus Malzahn 2
Hugh Freeze 2
Sylvestor Croom 1
Bobby Bowden 1
Mark Richt 1
Tommy Tuberville 1
Charlie Weatherbie 1
Kyle Whittingham 1
Steve Spurier 1
Gene Chizik 1
Kevin Sumlin 1
Bob Stoops 1
Dabo Swinney 1


Maybe we need Les Miles as our OC

At LSU the coaches that beat him look like this, FYI

Steve Spurier 3
Tommy Tuberville 3
Houston Nutt 2
Watson Brown 1
Philip Fulmer 1
David Cuttcliffe 1
Frank Beamer 1
Dennis Franchione 1
Mack Brown 1
Mark Richt 1
Kirk Ferentz 1

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12896 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:12 am to
To me my own values and ethics (which are for sale and not very good, respectively) have nothing to do with it.

The only question, in my opinion, is:
Does that history hurt our recruiting if on staff?

If no, bring him on.

If yes, find someone else whose skeletons haven't been revealed yet, and when they do revisit Freeze.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:13 am to
I’m all for having him as an offensive analyst or QB coach. Orgeron would really have to stick his neck out for him to get him down here.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25515 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:20 am to
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Yea with equal talent, and during a time period where power I was a good offensive game plan, you see what that got him, 5 losses in 4 years?


You do realize Bama won a title in 2009, and we beat them the next two years? They had trouble beating our 2008 and 2009 team, when we were not good at all, and they were national championship type teams.

You do realize we lost to Saban twice in OT, and another time on basically the last play of the game.
The last 12 times we've played them, we've had a decent qb 3 of those times. the other 9 times we trotted out guys like Jarrett Lee, Jordan Jefferson, Anthony Jennings, Brandon Harris, and Danny Etling.
The talent hasn't been equal for quite some time, at the QB position.

we aren't losing 62-7

Alabama could care less about losing to Ole Piss, or Johnny football. Those are fluke losses. When they lose to LSU, or Auburn, that's when their goals for the season become extremely difficult to attain.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:20 am to
I’d take him under one condition. While on LSUs clock, he says NOTHING about religion.
Posted by Lahurricane08
Member since Sep 2018
866 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:46 am to
That's disgusting if true
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38775 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:51 am to
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guess it shouldn't be surprising, but it amazes me how so many are willing to overlook character shortcomings and lack of good decision making and frankly, just ignore history. Look at the dumpster fire Ole Miss is today. Who's responsible? No thanks.





All in
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:52 am to
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I would be thrilled
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11977 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Alabama could care less about losing to Ole Piss, or Johnny football. Those are fluke losses. When they lose to LSU, or Auburn, that's when their goals for the season become extremely difficult to attain.


Yeah, losses never bother Saban. He's such a carefree sorta guy.
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