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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by KWL85
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:51 am to
Good work. Seems reasonable.
Thanks.

Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:53 am to
Bear Alexander and Perkins are the only two players who get an edge when it comes to the defense until both units can prove they can be competitive.
Posted by KWL85
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:55 am to
Not TLDR. Can anyone that can't read really provide good analysis? No. None of us are at every practice and in the meetings like the team and the coaches.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:58 am to
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Linebackers – LSU BIG

The Trojans LB corp is their biggest weakness. Eric Gentry is an athletic prospect but is weirdly sized at 6-6, 215. Easton Mascarenas-Arnold and Mason Cobb are older transfers from Oregon State and Oklahoma State that Lincoln Riley brought in to plug the leaks. LSU’s linebacker corp on the other hand is its strength. First round pick Harold Perkins, Jr. mans the Will while Greg Penn is steady eddie at the Mike. The Weeks brothers will also be on the field plenty making this group deep and talented for LSU.

If this is true it sounds like a heavy dose of Kaleb Jackson might be the recipe for success
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3206 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:03 am to
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Idk I feel like LSU will have one of the most stacked WR groups in the country this year. Lacy, Hilton, Zavion, and Daniels will be hell for anybody to defend. I know it may be a little bias but I find it hard not to go with LSU with the WRs.


I hear you but Lacey was a clear #3 and Hilton didn't catch 20 balls. Daniels has the stats but at Liberty. Zavion's stats were just OK at Miss State. None of these guys (except Hilton) were as highly rated coming out of high school as the big 4 at USC. So with LSU you have scrappy vets and one guy you hope finally hits his potential. With USC, you have a bunch of elite prospects who need to step up in year 2. And sadly, our secondary is just the perfect one to open with.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:20 am to
Great write up. Thank you.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:13 am to
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I hear you but Lacey was a clear #3 and Hilton didn't catch 20 balls. Daniels has the stats but at Liberty. Zavion's stats were just OK at Miss State. None of these guys (except Hilton) were as highly rated coming out of high school as the big 4 at USC. So with LSU you have scrappy vets and one guy you hope finally hits his potential. With USC, you have a bunch of elite prospects who need to step up in year 2. And sadly, our secondary is just the perfect one to open with.


I agree, The only way this offense struggles is if the WRs aren't up to par. Nuss will put it in some tight windows, our WRs need to be able to make the catches.
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:34 am to
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LSU lost 90% of its offense from last year.


Maybe 90% of the production but they return a ton of experience.

4 of 5 OL return
2 returning RB that have played a ton
Return one of the best TE’s in cfb and he’ll have a huge season.
2 WR that have played a shite ton of football in Lacy & Hilton. I look for them both to have breakout seasons.
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3206 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:43 am to
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I know you’re talking about offensive production—and you’re right, we’re replacing our Heisman winning QB who also lead the team in rushing, our top 2 WRs who were both 1st Round NFL picks, and even our 2nd leading rusher and most productive RB in Diggs. And we lost our OC, who oversaw the best offense in college football. Certainly sounds like a daunting task to overcome.

However, we return 4 of our 5 OL and TE. But they’re not just “returning,” they’re returning for their 3rd straight season of starting together (Dellinger and Frazier are both 4-year starters, too), and the importance of that can’t be understated. 5 of the 6 guys who work together as a unit more than any other position group on the field, who dictate what happens at the snap of every ball, will be doing it together for a 3rd straight season. I honestly can’t remember that ever happening here. Not since I’ve been paying attention, at least.

And they’re not “just guys,” they’re all draftable, headlined by the bookend tackles, who could both wind up being 1st round picks in the Spring, with Will probably being a top 5-10 pick. And the only newcomer to the group—Chester at Center—is a big upgrade physically over Turner. It remains to be seen how he handles the snaps and the calls (maybe the 2 most important things any OL does), but he played a good bit last year for a true freshman, especially in the bowl game against Wisconsin, and I can’t imagine he’d still be at Center if he was having any issues snapping the ball. As far as the calls, he’ll be flanked by 2 4-year starters at LG and RG to help him out.

Lacy started last year, too, and Josh Williams has played enough the last 2 years to be considered a starter. So, while I understand your point about how much production we lost, we are returning 7 starters. We’ll see how long it takes for the system to work the kinks out and how quickly everybody can get on the same page. I think that’s where having a dominant OL will prove to be most advantageous.


Great post - LSU's offensive line is uniquely talented and uniquely consistent. It's the foundation for our offensive success. Our offense will be different and, I think, more balanced. But it all starts upfront and our OL unit is truly elite.
Posted by Defiler
Member since Jul 2024
422 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:57 am to
Nice analysis. Will be closer than the experts think. LSU by 3.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10364 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:22 pm to
Maybe so but if the LSU WRs are anything like they are on College Football 25 then they will be elite

Also even though Lacy was a clear #3 last year you got to consider who he was 3rd behind. 2 1st rd NFL receivers. And you could clearly see how good Lacy will be by the end of last year. You could also see Hilton’s elite potential as well in the bowl game.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25663 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 1:36 am to
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Also even though Lacy was a clear #3 last year you got to consider who he was 3rd behind. 2 1st rd NFL receivers. And you could clearly see how good Lacy will be by the end of last year. You could also see Hilton’s elite potential as well in the bowl game.


Nabers and Thomas weren't just talented. They worked their asses off and Lacy was able to watch those guys develop and see what it takes to be a great WR1.

LSU isn't churning out 1st round WRs because they are getting the best 5 star talent (Aaron Anderson), but because they have a system where they work together and the stars lead by example and help the next guy before handing off the baton. You could see the respect and love Nabers and Thomas have for Lacy.

Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
19930 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 4:55 am to
With BK’s season opener preparation history, LSU will be lucky to win 49-48. Drop the opener and the playoffs are a pipe dream and the Tigers could be looking at a 7-5 to 9-3 regular season.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61200 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 7:07 am to
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Great post - LSU's offensive line is uniquely talented and uniquely consistent. It's the foundation for our offensive success. Our offense will be different and, I think, more balanced. But it all starts upfront and our OL unit is truly elite.


No doubt. And Lacy is very physical and an elite blocking WR. I think we’ll definitely be more balanced this year—I think play-action becomes a big part of the offense as well—and we’ll probably lean on the OL and running game early in the season while we get the communication down from Sloan to Nuss to the WRs/TEs to get everybody on the same page.

It will probably be smart to try to limit USC’s possessions as well while we work on our communication on the defensive side with all new coaches and learn how to play together in a brand new scheme. I’m optimistic that that happens relatively quickly, though.

One, BK has been stressing communication on that side of the ball. I think he saw House was an atrocious communicator—at least on the college level. He was terrible at not only communicating with players, but communicating with his coaches as well and coaching them on how to coach his scheme to the players. They looked like they had never played football before for a lot of the season. Some of that could be chalked up to a lack of the talent we’re used to having on D, but not all of it. A ton of that was on coaching and the defensive staff not being able to get our guys to play together, where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Two, I think BK was impressed by what Baker did in turning around Mizzou’s defense and was likely told how great a communicator/teacher Baker is during the vetting process. He’ll throw some cleats on and get down on the field and in the mix with some 1-on-1 instruction.

Three, Baker brought his right-hand man in Olsen to coach safeties. They were together for a year at LSU before spending the past 2 at Missouri. And they both have coached lbs and safeties, with each having a Butkus Award Finalist in the past 3 seasons (Olsen helped Baker develop Clark in ‘21 and I’m sure baker helped Olsen develop Ty’Ron Hopper last year). It seems like they worked very closely the past 3 years, so the communication between those 2 should be seamless. Same with Peeples, who worked with both Baker and Olsen the past 2 years. And Baker (and Olsen to some degree) worked alongside Raymond in ‘21 too. So you’ve got 3 coaches under Baker who have all worked with him before, and if you count Baker as LB coach, they represent all 3 levels of the defense. The only defensive coach that hasn’t is Bo Davis, and he’s considered maybe the best DT/DL coach in college football. And they all have reputations as being great teachers—I don’t think communication is going to be an issue on that side of the ball once we identify the 2 deep and start getting them most of the reps as we ramp up toward USC in Vegas.

But Lincoln Riley is a helluvan offensive coach himself. Most games eventually come down to which guys make the most plays. And I’m sure this one will too. But with 3 new coordinators and 2 new starting QBs, coaching may play a bigger factor in this game than most. I wish we had a game before. I bet they do too, though. Oh well.

This game is so huge. It could catapult the winner into a great start to the season and having some nice momentum heading into October. The loser will likely feel they’re behind the 8-ball all year, despite the expanded playoffs. The conference schedules are too tough to use one of your 2 mulligans the 1st weekend of September.
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