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re: On paper, this is the most talented team Kelly has ever coached…
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:35 pm to Mr Right
Posted on 8/25/25 at 1:35 pm to Mr Right
quote:Outdated mindset.
If they don't make the playoffs, no matter the contract, Kelly will be looking for a new job!
We live in the wide-open NIL era now. Programs with any ambition to make the playoffs are not going to fire a coach and pay his buyout, because the simple fact is that money is not unlimited.
Any money you'd pay on a buyout could also be spent in NIL deals, and you're looking at a better return of investment.
Look at Florida. The boosters got fired up about Napier, pooled some money together and were ready to pay his buyout so they could move on. But instead, the AD supported Napier, and that cash was used to get better players, and now Florida has a bit of a brighter future this year.
Kelly is running the program competently. Good structure, solid coaches, things are going smooth from a day-to-day business aspect. You get boosters throwing money into a pot (to buy him out), you tell them to use that money to get the next elite QB, WR, OL etc.
The only way you fire coaches and buy them out now, is if they're complete disasters. Media circus sideshows everywhere and people embarrassing the program. Like Orgeron did, like Belichik is doing at UNC now etc.
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Posted on 8/25/25 at 3:50 pm to kobsa
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CBK is rarely mentioned as a determinant for why a player chose/chooses LSU or comments on him as a coach or individually positively.
I've noticed this as well, but luckily, the kids do seem to love our assistant coaches. Notably, Corey Raymond, Blake Baker, and Cortez Hankton are frequently mentioned by them.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:03 pm to TexasTiger_08
So O and miles always motivated their teams.If that’s true then where did the last 2 5 loss seasons from Os team come from.As for as Les losing 3 or 4 games a year his last few seasons meant his teams were motivated.You people who hate BK never stop posting BS to put him down.BK is the best and smartest coach we have had since NS. Evan he said BK is the most strategic coach he knows.But yall will shite on that.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:06 pm to DeltaDoc
Just to mess with you I’m going to place you in a Time Machine back to being a Tennessee fan when Peyton graduated.
All was lost until T Martin’s from Mobile, whom didn’t get very many snaps goes and beats FSU for the fIRST BCS.
All was lost until T Martin’s from Mobile, whom didn’t get very many snaps goes and beats FSU for the fIRST BCS.
This post was edited on 8/25/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:11 pm to Odysseus32
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Because Kelly cannot win games he is supposed to with consistency.
I actually disagree with this. He is notorious for winning the games he's favored in, he proved that at ND. It was when he hit a team that out talented him that he fell a part. It's why he dominated the regular season and never won a championship. This is his first actual year ever (IMO) where he will have an equally talented or more talented team in EVERY game this year. The real question is can he win the big games when it matters. He's shown it can be done (Bama 2023) and he's got the horses this year. It's nut up or shut up time.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:15 pm to RGT
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where did the last 2 5 loss seasons from Os team come from.As for as Les losing 3 or 4 games a year his last few seasons meant his teams were motivated
Because O and Miles were morons when it came down to X's and O's and relied on recruiting great talent and good coordinators. Both things can be true. BK is a better football coach but not a great motivator.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:21 pm to Scoob
quote:
Outdated mindset.
We live in the wide-open NIL era now. Programs with any ambition to make the playoffs are not going to fire a coach and pay his buyout, because the simple fact is that money is not unlimited.
Any money you'd pay on a buyout could also be spent in NIL deals, and you're looking at a better return of investment.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the coaching salary market has plateaued. Allegedly, LSU spent $18M on the roster this year. The cost of a roster is only going to increase because the marketplace is essentially unregulated. It's hard to see LSU and the donors agreeing to pay BK $50M to not coach, pay a few million to buyout the staff, then commit at least $60M to a new HC (because LSU fans are only going to demand the best), commit another few million for a new staff, then have to commit $20M to buy a top notch roster because, again, LSU fans will only demand the best.
Whether fans like it or not, LSU is locked into Kelly for at least 2, maybe 3 more years. He was hired at a time the NIL./transfer market was still relatively new under the antiquated way of thinking that paying the most money possible for a HC was the way to success. Previously a school could eat a big buyout because that was the only big expense. But with players becoming more and more expensive the ability to eat a big buyout is less and less realistic.
The game has changed, and the marketplace is still learning how to adapt
Posted on 8/25/25 at 4:32 pm to TexasTiger_08
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BK is a better football coach but not a great motivator.
"Motivation" is important for about 5 minutes in the game. The rest comes down to better players and who can execute.
BK made two mistakes when he came to LSU:
1. He assumed LSU just recruited itself when it came to regional players so he hired a staff with more of a national outlook, just assuming the LSU name would bring the regional player in on their own. He realized his mistake after 2023. It's no coincidence you started seeing guys with deep LA/LSU ties come on board. Raymond, Baker, Davis, Olsen (previous LSU analyst).
2. He didn't fully embrace the transfer market. He had to go big on transfers in 2022 because of the shape of the roster. But his plan was to decrease the number of transfer and still build the traditional way. His second two transfer classes were more potential vs. production classes...and the results on the field showed it. This year he signed several multi-year starters with proven production
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:57 pm to Mr Right
quote:FiFY
Mr WRONG
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:58 pm to DeltaDoc
Posted on 8/25/25 at 5:59 pm to Mandtgr47
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if he fails this year, he will never get there.
Except he has been to the BCS and playoffs when it was just 4 teams AND the year he came here his team finished 5th overall.
So this is stupid
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:00 pm to Odysseus32
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a fake fan.
You’re not a fan at all and that wall of shite you wrote is just that - a wall of shite.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:03 pm to Odysseus32
quote:you can’t name shite because it isn’t comparing apples to apples in TODAY’S LANDSCAPE.
It's not about O and Miles
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:16 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
You’re not a fan at all and that wall of shite you wrote is just that - a wall of shite.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:34 pm to DeltaDoc
Man I’m just glad you typed “corps” instead of “core.”
Posted on 8/25/25 at 6:36 pm to Scoob
quote:About that qb thing.
to get the next elite QB, WR, OL etc.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:44 pm to nitwit
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Clemson is a top five team we are playing at their home stadium in the season opener. Losing would not be fatal nor mean we aren't really good.
If we lose our starting QB to injury or have OL injuries even for 2-3 games, we don't make the playoffs.
Its great to have talent, but breaks and scheduling have a lot to do with success
100%. Even our best squads have needed breaks, lucky bounces and avoidance of key injury.
Posted on 8/25/25 at 7:52 pm to Geaux Guy
All is not lost with a loss Saturday. But the margin moves in..
LSU could really only lose one more and be certain of a playoff appearance.
A loss to Clemson very likely means no playoff, assuming a couple of losses out of aTm, OM, Bama, OU, Florida and even SC.
It doesn’t kill LSUs chances, but it probably reduces playoff odds by 50%.
LSU could really only lose one more and be certain of a playoff appearance.
A loss to Clemson very likely means no playoff, assuming a couple of losses out of aTm, OM, Bama, OU, Florida and even SC.
It doesn’t kill LSUs chances, but it probably reduces playoff odds by 50%.
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