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Oline’s been a persistent problem for years
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:04 pm
Especially in obvious passing downs. Feels like playaction is where we’ve had success but elite pass rushers won’t bite especially with a weaker than usual run game which was the story of the Florida and Alabama losses.
I’d say it’s the only Miles problem orgeron hasn’t fixed. I expect it will get fixed and the Ensminger scheme all of a sudden will look modern and edgy.
I’d say it’s the only Miles problem orgeron hasn’t fixed. I expect it will get fixed and the Ensminger scheme all of a sudden will look modern and edgy.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:05 pm
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:07 pm to siliconvalleytiger
So Hugh Freeze couldn't have success running the LSU Offense with this offensive line? Could he not coordinate this offense to score 20 points on sabamm?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:10 pm to siliconvalleytiger
If you havent seen modern and edgy by now, you aint going to see it with Steve. This is the same guy calling play action pass on our own goal line against Bama. Not very edgy.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:14 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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I’d say it’s the only Miles problem orgeron hasn’t fixed. I expect it will get fixed and the Ensminger scheme all of a sudden will look modern and edgy.
You fricks are hilarious. Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:16 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Funny how the o line has been the problem for years...even before O as you stated...yet Ensminger is the OC producing the worst offense from it.
So what does that say about him? How do you figure we see a modern edgy offense with a better o line when he cant even keep up with Cam Cameron's offensive stats?
So what does that say about him? How do you figure we see a modern edgy offense with a better o line when he cant even keep up with Cam Cameron's offensive stats?
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:19 pm to releauxded2469
Not to mention play action when sitting at negative rushing yards. They were really biting on the fake handoff
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:21 pm to Tiger Tracker
Stats aside, this offense feels no better or worse than anything we’ve had since OBJ and Landry left. I’ll take the point on Ensminger. He probably needs to go also but the oline is a bigger problem.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:22 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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I’d say it’s the only Miles problem orgeron hasn’t fixed. I expect it will get fixed and the Ensminger scheme all of a sudden will look modern and edgy.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:28 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Stats aside,
This is where you go off the rails. Stats are the most important thing to go on. Right now Ensminger has fielded some of the worst offensive stats since Jimbo left. Not just in total offensive yards but in pts/game as well which is one of the bigger offensive stats when comparing OC successes. Seriously... go look at the stats i posted a week ago.. Ensminger is really poor in almost every category.
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He probably needs to go also but the oline is a bigger problem.
I'm not sure I agree with you there. Houston for example went from 75 to 5 in offense with an OC change. It's hard to believe that we would go from 103 to top 50 even with better o linemen.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:29 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Funny how the o line has been the problem for years...even before O as you stated...yet Ensminger is the OC producing the worst offense from it.
oddly enough, he was also the OC that produced the most from it. Most in LSU history in fact. Averaged 464 ypg in 2016. He has shown he is capable but something is not right with him now.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:30 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Give it a rest, man. Nobody is buying this garbage.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:33 pm to Tiger Tracker
You’re being civil which is frankly odd for this board. I agree we don’t look good right now. But I don’t think it’s all Ensminger. He’s part of the problem but we don’t have the athleticism at running back nor the run and pass blocking we needed to score more points. It all needs to be fixed including Ensminger.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:34 pm to siliconvalleytiger
100%. Good post, up vote.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:34 pm to siliconvalleytiger
quote:Yes. How convenient. Let's all just throw the stats out and make our points.
Stats aside
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:35 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Especially in obvious passing downs.
what's worse to me is that in obvious running downs, he runs the ball. Stupid. After a couple of successful runs the defense is a much easier target for a successful pass play than when they are stuffing the run. Also on 2nd or 3rd and short they are more vulnerable to a pass. 4th and inches, what do we do, run the ball
So stupid IMO. The offense was not good before Arkansas but I could understand what they were trying to do, but against Arkansas it went off the rails. in 2016 he was not calling games like this. He was playing fast and loose in 2016 but with house money.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:36 pm to boxcar willie
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oddly enough, he was also the OC that produced the most from it. Most in LSU history in fact.
That may be true but if you look at his national ranking in yrds/game in 16 or 18 he is not that good.
ETA: his pts/game are some of the worst too.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:39 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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But I don’t think it’s all Ensminger. He’s part of the problem but we don’t have the athleticism at running back nor the run and pass blocking we needed to score more points. It all needs to be fixed including Ensminger.
I don't disagree with that at all. However your OP said that we would see a modern edgy offense if we fixed the o line. I still don't believe that to be true, and it seems like you may have changed your mind on that too.
What I just quoted from you is not how your OP reads, which is why I made the points I did. If your stance is what I have quoted above we are on the same page.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:42 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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the Ensminger scheme all of a sudden will look modern and edgy.
only way that happens is if he goes back to his 2016 mind set and all the returning personnel on the offense side of the ball is as good as they should be now that they have some experience. From the look of the offense in the Arkansas game I would think not likely that he returns to form.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:44 pm to Tiger Tracker
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That may be true but if you look at his national ranking in yrds/game in 16 or 18 he is not that good.
yes I was just comparing him to LSU offenses. In that regard he did great in 2016.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:46 pm to Tiger Tracker
Modern and edgy was me being provocative to make a point. It’s not the only problem though. If Burrow has better protection, we blow Arky out last week. I was surprised we couldn’t block the Arkansas defenders. That isn’t all scheme. The guys upfront need to handle business.
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