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re: Ogeron not interviewing Pellini
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:50 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 7/20/21 at 10:50 am to The Pirate King
quote:coming from u that shits on every coach but one lol. Using covid which wasn’t around in January to excuse O is great lol
Also not surprised to see the pathetic pitting of our coaches against one another.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:01 am to SlidellCajun
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Now that we know the truth though, we can only hope he’s learned from it.
There are certain things that should be deeply understood by his age / college football tenure. Like getting to know the guy on your staff who is responsible for minimizing your opponents' score. Free learning pass is long in past.
Here is another. Quit trying to find people to "run Joe Brady's offense". Coaches should own their team (your offense, your philosophy, your process), not rent from others...at this level of football.
I love the guy and he has my full support. However, my confidence in him is as high as Pellini's YPG was low.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:07 am to Solo Cam
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Everyone thought it was a home run hire
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
talk about revisionist history
Posted on 7/20/21 at 11:07 am to The Pirate King
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Also not surprised to see the pathetic pitting of our coaches against one another.
Would have been a real shame if someone had done that with, let’s say, Dave Aranda. A real shame.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:20 pm to Damone
Face it! Orgeron is in above his ability and his END at LSU FB is very likely SIONER than later!
Live by politics and you’ll surely die by it......many fans did not and do not want Orgeron leading LSU FB.
Live by politics and you’ll surely die by it......many fans did not and do not want Orgeron leading LSU FB.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:33 pm to Solo Cam
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Everyone thought it was a home run hire.
Absolutely not.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:42 pm to tigerdude12
Too busy effing around and basking in the glory of 2019. It was inexcusable. He burned up ALL of the goodwill he had accumulated imo.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 12:47 pm to tigerdude12
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Still can’t get over O not personally interviewing Pellini.
the only thing worse then not doing your job is freely admitting you didnt do your job and acting like its no big deal you royally screwed up
Posted on 7/20/21 at 1:02 pm to NoShow
I love the down votes from arm chair quarterbacks who think that there isn’t a coach who does this. It isn’t that hard to see why and how this could happen. He knew Bo, Bo had success at LSU, Bo is aggressive, Bo was a head coach at a major school and had some decent results, Bo knew the LSU/Louisiana/SEC culture and landscape, Bo was also thought of highly by one of Orgeron’s mentors.
Just like Lane Kiffin was his guy, Bo Pelini was his guy. He called him up, he’s pumped about the 2019 season, knows he’ll need help with the following season and believed Bo could provide that. There were also so many other variables or factors which led to Bo being a failure which also makes you idiots look like you have even more of a vendetta against O.
Had the hire worked out, he would seem like he just has a sense for what is needed. Who could have predicted what happened last season, which all had a huge affect. From past players, to Covid, to inequality marches, to opt outs on a huge scale. That completely changed everything including the hire. Trigger happy crowd, take your meds.
Just like Lane Kiffin was his guy, Bo Pelini was his guy. He called him up, he’s pumped about the 2019 season, knows he’ll need help with the following season and believed Bo could provide that. There were also so many other variables or factors which led to Bo being a failure which also makes you idiots look like you have even more of a vendetta against O.
Had the hire worked out, he would seem like he just has a sense for what is needed. Who could have predicted what happened last season, which all had a huge affect. From past players, to Covid, to inequality marches, to opt outs on a huge scale. That completely changed everything including the hire. Trigger happy crowd, take your meds.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 2:05 pm to tigerdude12
Well, I'm glad he clarified it and also admitted that had he formally interviewed Pelini that he would have hired him anyway based on his history and reputation.
Nonetheless, given Pelini's history and reputation I can see why Ed O blindly trusted Pelini. I mean everywhere Pelini had been previously, he had been a very outstanding coach.
Hence, it was easy for Ed O to place his trust in Pelini's hands. Not to mention that Pelini's former LSU players were also very happy about the Pelini hire and they couldn't lay on their affection and praise for Pelini thick enough.
A lot what of Pelini's failure had to do with the Covid Pandemic because there was no spring practice and summer workouts and self-practice and only an abbreviated fall camp.
In fact, I remember hearing several former Pelini LSU players that were appearing on OTB during fall camp expressing very serious concerns about the lack of practice time for the current players to learn Pelini's defensive system. As they said it had previously took hundreds of reps for them to become proficient in Pelini's defensive system. However, because of the Covid Pandemic, there wasn't sufficient time to permit those all too important reps.
So when I saw how piss poor Pelini's defense performed against Moo State, what was said in those OTB interviews about the reps being critical to learn Pelini's defense immediately came back to haunt me.
Anyway, Ed O and a lot of other people learned a very difficult and also a very valuable lesson, which is never assume someone's history and reputation precedes them. Always practice due diligence when making hires, regardless of past history and reputation. But then again, there is no better predictor of the future than a person's past history and reputation.
Given what happened, it could have happened to anyone. Hence, I'm not going to condemn Ed O on this one for being human.
As overall Ed O still has the highest record of success for a four year head coach in the country. No other head coach comes close. Not to mention that I myself, like a lot of other people and Ed O himself, also foolishly believed in Bo Pelini. Hence, it's very hard for me to condemn Ed O because I made the same stupid mistake and also assumed the defense was going to be better than it was at anytime in 2019. Hey, shite happens.
Nonetheless, given Pelini's history and reputation I can see why Ed O blindly trusted Pelini. I mean everywhere Pelini had been previously, he had been a very outstanding coach.
Hence, it was easy for Ed O to place his trust in Pelini's hands. Not to mention that Pelini's former LSU players were also very happy about the Pelini hire and they couldn't lay on their affection and praise for Pelini thick enough.
A lot what of Pelini's failure had to do with the Covid Pandemic because there was no spring practice and summer workouts and self-practice and only an abbreviated fall camp.
In fact, I remember hearing several former Pelini LSU players that were appearing on OTB during fall camp expressing very serious concerns about the lack of practice time for the current players to learn Pelini's defensive system. As they said it had previously took hundreds of reps for them to become proficient in Pelini's defensive system. However, because of the Covid Pandemic, there wasn't sufficient time to permit those all too important reps.
So when I saw how piss poor Pelini's defense performed against Moo State, what was said in those OTB interviews about the reps being critical to learn Pelini's defense immediately came back to haunt me.
Anyway, Ed O and a lot of other people learned a very difficult and also a very valuable lesson, which is never assume someone's history and reputation precedes them. Always practice due diligence when making hires, regardless of past history and reputation. But then again, there is no better predictor of the future than a person's past history and reputation.
Given what happened, it could have happened to anyone. Hence, I'm not going to condemn Ed O on this one for being human.
As overall Ed O still has the highest record of success for a four year head coach in the country. No other head coach comes close. Not to mention that I myself, like a lot of other people and Ed O himself, also foolishly believed in Bo Pelini. Hence, it's very hard for me to condemn Ed O because I made the same stupid mistake and also assumed the defense was going to be better than it was at anytime in 2019. Hey, shite happens.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 2:11 pm to Purple Tiger King
If you want too maintain Pelini has left a wake of goodwill and high regard at his prior coaching destinations, google "Nebraska Pelini" and see what comes up.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 2:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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A certain poster will be along shortly to tell us that Bo was all Scot Woodwards fault. That Woodward hired Bo and forced him on Coach O.
Well, until yesterday when Ed O clarified everything, what was I supposed to believe?
I mean, people aren't hired by osmosis. Someone has to interview them, screen them, negotiate a compensation package with their agent, and then hire them.
So since Ed O said he never interviewed Pelini, then who did? Obviously, it was Scott Woodward.
However, the part that wasn't clear until yesterday, is that Ed O also blindly approved the Pelini hiring based on Pelini's past history and reputation. Now, after Ed O clarified everything, it's crystal clear that Bo Pelini is on Ed O.
Nonetheless, not only Ed O blindly believed in Bo Pelini. In fact, virtually all of Bo Pelini's former LSU players praised the hiring too.
I mean there is no better predictor of what a person's future performance will be other than their past history and reputation and Pelini's past history and reputation were nothing short of spectacular. Indeed, anyone could have made the same mistake and if they claim otherwise, like all of the Tom Herman supporters/Ed O haters all do, then it's obvious they are nothing but compulsive liars.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 2:31 pm to nitwit
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If you want too maintain Pelini has left a wake of goodwill and high regard at his prior coaching destinations, google "Nebraska Pelini" and see what comes up.
What makes you so damn dumb that you think I don't already know all about about the circumstances surrounding Pelini's firing at Nebraska?
In fact, in that particular incident in the life and times of Bo Pelini, I supported Pelini and still do in that regard to this day. Indeed, to this day I still feel Nebraska made a very stupid mistake and the proof of it is years later their football program is still on a downward trajectory.
You're obviously more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 3:46 pm to Purple Tiger King
Well since you asked, I rely on your own posts to tell me how much you likely know or don't know.
Like your stubborn insistence until today that Woodard hired Pelini and not Orgeron.
And your current claim that Pelini was a great success everywhere he has coached is not exactly a universally held opinion. He was fired at Nebraska and it was an ugly break. To this day, Nebraska fans hold him in the same regard as we do Curly Hallman.
Like your stubborn insistence until today that Woodard hired Pelini and not Orgeron.
And your current claim that Pelini was a great success everywhere he has coached is not exactly a universally held opinion. He was fired at Nebraska and it was an ugly break. To this day, Nebraska fans hold him in the same regard as we do Curly Hallman.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 3:55 pm to Turf Taint
Didn’t he say he interviewed him on Skype
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:22 pm to nitwit
Well, Woodward did interview Pelini, screened him, negotiated a compensation package with Pelini's agent, and hired him because hiring doesn't happen by osmosis, but, now that Ed O clarified yesterday that even though he would have formerly interviewed Bo Pelini, he would have hired him based again, on his past history and reputation. Which, by the way, moron, is the best indicator of a candidate for a particular job's future performance. So actually, no one did anything wrong and there is really nothing to criticize. Pelini just turned out to be an unfortunate hire.
Not only did Ed O love the Pelini hire, but all of the former LSU players that played for Pelini couldn't heap enough affection and praise on the hire. Also, most of Tiger Nation loved the hire too.
However, because of unforeseen circumstances, that hire turned out to be a bad one. So now you Tom Herman supporters/Ed O haters, who probably praised the hire last year as well, are crucifying Ed O for it even though they, Ed O, and virtually the entirety of Tiger Nation all thought it was a great hire at the time as well.
Moreover, only an incredibly dumb ignoramus like you is stupid enough to believe that Nebraska didn't cut their own throat when they fired Pelini for the reason they did. As their reasoning considering all the circumstances involved was very ludicrous.
Like I said, it's very obvious, you are far more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck. I mean, it would really suck to be you.
Not only did Ed O love the Pelini hire, but all of the former LSU players that played for Pelini couldn't heap enough affection and praise on the hire. Also, most of Tiger Nation loved the hire too.
However, because of unforeseen circumstances, that hire turned out to be a bad one. So now you Tom Herman supporters/Ed O haters, who probably praised the hire last year as well, are crucifying Ed O for it even though they, Ed O, and virtually the entirety of Tiger Nation all thought it was a great hire at the time as well.
Moreover, only an incredibly dumb ignoramus like you is stupid enough to believe that Nebraska didn't cut their own throat when they fired Pelini for the reason they did. As their reasoning considering all the circumstances involved was very ludicrous.
Like I said, it's very obvious, you are far more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck. I mean, it would really suck to be you.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:27 pm to tigerdude12
Shocked he admitted it. Pissed for Jordy to lose his job over saying it.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:45 pm to nitwit
quote:plus he was garbage at Youngstown state and never coordinated a defense against the offenses we see now. Just another bad O hire. I hope he struck gold with Peetz and Jones
this day, Nebraska fans hold him in the same regard as we do Curly Hallm
Posted on 7/20/21 at 4:52 pm to tigerdude12
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Still can’t get over O not personally interviewing Pellini.
i could've overlooked it if not for Matt Canada. Pelini won a NC here, so we already knew he used to be able to do the job. The problem was I wonder how much he really wanted to.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 5:07 pm to tigerdude12
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Still can’t get over O not personally interviewing Pellini.

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