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re: Official MLB Draft Thread OVER (Neal to LSU!)
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:47 am to Tigerfan1274
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:47 am to Tigerfan1274
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Good. Nothing has happened that was not expected.
Sister Luck be kind to our pitchers! We need some arms!
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:52 am to Metaloctopus
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He was all about self-promotion. I have no idea why MLB Network thought that would be a good idea to have him on.
Thats his job. We can all hate TV, and he is a douche, but what he is doing is working. Recruits love it, the media loves it bc it gets reactions from people. Love it or hate it, TV is getting exactly what he wants out of the attention his team's attitude creates.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:05 am to ProjectP2294
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Late round picks and UDFAs are where the smart orgs can really separate themselves from the dumb ones. So it's not one org passing up drafting a guy to then try to sign him later, it's one org drafting a guy they can sign and then signing another guy as a UDFA because a bunch of dumb teams didn't draft him.
I completely understand what you're saying, and I agree. It's that, if you don't think highly enough of a guy to draft him, but now you and a couple of teams are eyeballing a guy who you think has potential, to the point where you might go over 125k to secure his services over whoever else is offering him, you're now paying that guy, as a UDFA, more money than probably anyone you just drafted after the 10th round, other than a couple of highschoolers who you might go over slot on. And is that really worth it? If so, again, why not draft him? Are teams really going to save pool money in hopes of signing top UDFA's? For these reasons, I just don't see the money getting that high on UDFA's; and not every team is going to identify the same fringe guys to go after, most likely, but if they do, and the bidding goes off a bit... That's going to look pretty weird.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:12 am to adamb2151
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Thats his job. We can all hate TV, and he is a douche, but what he is doing is working. Recruits love it, the media loves it bc it gets reactions from people. Love it or hate it, TV is getting exactly what he wants out of the attention his team's attitude creates.
I understand what his job is. But I also understand what MLB's job is not. This isn't a regular reality TV show, where it's all about ratings at any cost. Yes, they want ratings, but they are providing a single coach a platform to promote himself and his team, that is not being afforded to others. I have a problem with that. While the intent is surely not to collude with the University of Tennessee, it has the same effect.
They could have had any personality who gets reactions out of people, if that was the goal. It didn't have to be an active college head coach. But they've done this with him and Tim Corbin, in recent memory.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:12 am to Metaloctopus
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Are teams really going to save pool money in hopes of signing top UDFA's?
No. And no one has said they would. You draft senior signs in 6-10 to save money for overslot guys you draft 1-5.
And if you have money left over, you use it over the $125K on guys 11-20.
Then you go after UDFAs.
It's unlikely that we see another TJ Friedl (former Jay Johson redshirt at Nevada) that gets $750K as a UDFA. But with 20 fewer rounds, there are going to be some in demand UDFAs.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:19 am to Metaloctopus
MLB Network is ratings driven just like everything else. They want to broadcast things that move the needle. They dont care about fairness to other coaches/programs lol. Thats like saying ESPn is colluding with Ole Miss every time they talk about Lane Kiffin antics. It is what it is. People that move the needle get air time. It is a double edged sword though bc it works negatively when those antics are negative.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:24 am to ProjectP2294
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No. And no one has said they would
I didn't assume anyone did. It was just a rhetorical question.
I think raising the cap on UDFA's is just a dumb idea. It makes no sense that a UDFA should make as much as a guy drafted 11-20. It just makes makes a mockery of the process, in my opinion. And I mean that as long as there are caps, at all. In a free market, I'm all for letting employers pay what they want, and for employees to get whatever they can earn. But the draft isn't a free market, of course.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:28 am to Metaloctopus
I think you're just assuming that every player drafted is more deserving than every player not drafted. Some teams draft terribly, and players get left out.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:28 am to adamb2151
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MLB Network is ratings driven just like everything else. They want to broadcast things that move the needle. They dont care about fairness to other coaches/programs lol. Thats like saying ESPn is colluding with Ole Miss every time they talk about Lane Kiffin antics. It is what it is. People that move the needle get air time. It is a double edged sword though bc it works negatively when those antics are negative.
Talking about someone's antics is not the same thing as having a guy on to promote himself during the draft. I don't think you appreciate the significance of that timing.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:32 am to DRock88
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I think you're just assuming that every player drafted is more deserving than every player not drafted. Some teams draft terribly, and players get left out.
I'm not assuming that, at all. But the draft has tiers of bonus caps that lower as the draft goes on. To treat UDFA's as equals is to negate the whole purpose of that. You are better off lengthening the draft again (which I think it never needed to be shortened, in the first place).
Know what I mean?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:34 am to Metaloctopus
He was really good. He basically recruited or scouted most of these kids. Enjoyed his perspective. Between him & O’Dowd it was a much better production than ESPN
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:36 am to Lester Earl
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He was really good. He basically recruited or scouted most of these kids. Enjoyed his perspective. Between him & O’Dowd it was a much better production than ESPN
I know you did not just compliment Tony Vitello on this board
Posted on 7/18/22 at 11:58 am to Metaloctopus
Hey Vitello how'd you enjoy the CWS this year? ... from the comfort of the sofa in your office in Knoxville!!!
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:13 pm to Lester Earl
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He was really good. He basically recruited or scouted most of these kids. Enjoyed his perspective. Between him & O’Dowd it was a much better production than ESPN
I don't like his on field b.s., but he was very good last night.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:14 pm to Stevo
How was this thread unstickied 45 minutes before the real sweat starts?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:27 pm to ProjectP2294
Baseball cant be competing with football media days i guess
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:29 pm to ProjectP2294
We ready to let out a nice respective explicative when the Orioles make their first pick?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:32 pm to Adam4848
Is ell still there to make ghost noises at them
Fingers crossed we don't lose many today.
Fingers crossed we don't lose many today.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:49 pm to Senora Ramos
I’m still here. They’re still here.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:49 pm to ProjectP2294
Let’s GEAUX!!
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