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re: Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:18 am to jimbeaux82
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:18 am to jimbeaux82
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JL took 19 snaps - threw 14 passes. When he comes in, all the Aub D had to do was pin their ears back and rush like hell. No wonder we could not block them under those circumstances.
If JL were given the proper chance, coming in the game when we are not in a bind, the results would be much different.
This is bad coaching decisions - pure and simple.
This. Boom.
When JL came in the coaches decided we had to throw, even though we had successful run the football.
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:19 am to Buda
Frankly Lee was not given sufficient opportunity in the game. Fact of the matter is that if he started it would have been different ballgame. When he got in, OL was too roughed up by their OL and he could not get rythm. He was not given opportunity to throw sufficient mid-range passes. Other than the fumbled snap (and bungling by coaches TT on 4th down play) he played fine in my opinion. He certainly should start against AL and wait until then to make any judgements.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:19 am to Buda
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I do not ever expect Lee to start as they simply cannot trust him to bow up and make plays when it counts.
Like when he did it as a 3rd string Freshman @ Auburn, the Tenn game this year, and the Florida game? How bout play him and then lets make comments. He may not be the answer, but he damn sure gives us a better chance to score and WIN. We'd have 3 losses without him.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:20 am to Buda
quote:- With this miserable offensive design. You cannot blame JLee for the lack of production, when you run a frickin' read option with a QB that runs a 4.9 forty.
Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer.
Crowton has totally lost his mind with this. I don't care who the head coach is, the OC has got to grow a pair of nuts and tell him he's frickin' wrong with this offensive strategy.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:20 am to MandevilleLSUTiger
How did we get in this bad shape at QB
I thought Miles was a great recruiter.
I thought Miles was a great recruiter.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:21 am to blueTunaTiger
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You cannot blame JLee for the lack of production, when you run a frickin' read option with a QB that runs a 4.9 forty.
That alone should tell everyone how fricking stupid our coaches are. You think the defense really believes Lee is going to keep it?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:21 am to Buda
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Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer.
Maybe not, but he's the better option. Hell, at this point I'm all for letting Spencer Ware come in and run a triple option with Ridley and Shep.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:25 am to JustSmokin
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Anyone who thought he was the answer is just a fool. But he is a better passer than JJ.
Bingo.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:25 am to bayou2003
<------------ I really hope we land this guy
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:26 am to EricB
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If Lee played 100% of the snaps this season, including the beginning of this game, we would have won. It's as simple as that.
That's quite alot of speculation there my friend.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:26 am to Katy Tiger
Great plan! As I've said before we should have gotten rid of Crowton after the 07 season.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:26 am to jimbeaux82
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This is bad coaching decisions - pure and simple.
How good JL is / will be, who knows ?
The kid has character and ability.
He has never been given a real chance, not sure that he will...not by Miles.
He is brought in when WE NEED TO PASS, or WE ARE IN A BIND, or like in his first year w/out experience and with play calling that did not suit him/was not yet ready to execute.
..I really do not know how good he may / may not be.
I do know this.. our coaches have not matched his abilities to the game plan as good coaches will, but then, we know about our OC.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:29 am to BullSam
The main problem is this 2 QB rotation abortion. Can someone please name a team that used this effectively?? In my memory, I cannot.
What we are doing isnt working. By that, I mean our offensive production is terrible. We might win some games, but the quality teams will not be beaten with this stratergy.
With a 2 QB rotation, you never stay with the hot QB and never allow the QB to gain any type of a rythm. It destroys Offensive production.
So pick one QB and go with it.
If Miles is determined to go with JJ come hell or high water - then so be it. Design the offense give up the middle and long pass and to run JJ similar to what has been done with Fig Newton and we have some chance.
Or start JL and go with a pro style, balance offense from the start and we will have some chance.
But this BS, 2 QB rotation, totally predictable, abortion of an offense simply will not get it.
Never has - never will.
Football 101.
Football for Dummies.
You listening Miles???
What we are doing isnt working. By that, I mean our offensive production is terrible. We might win some games, but the quality teams will not be beaten with this stratergy.
With a 2 QB rotation, you never stay with the hot QB and never allow the QB to gain any type of a rythm. It destroys Offensive production.
So pick one QB and go with it.
If Miles is determined to go with JJ come hell or high water - then so be it. Design the offense give up the middle and long pass and to run JJ similar to what has been done with Fig Newton and we have some chance.
Or start JL and go with a pro style, balance offense from the start and we will have some chance.
But this BS, 2 QB rotation, totally predictable, abortion of an offense simply will not get it.
Never has - never will.
Football 101.
Football for Dummies.
You listening Miles???
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:31 am to JustSmokin
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Anyone who thought he was the answer is just a fool. But he is a better passer than JJ.
The real answer is LSU doesn't have one QB.
That's what I've been saying all along, and I'm not sure why very few realize this.
Lee gives us things that JJ doesn't.
JJ gives us things that Lee doesn't.
Neither alone give us what we need.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:33 am to jimbeaux82
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The main problem is this 2 QB rotation abortion. Can someone please name a team that used this effectively?? In my memory, I cannot.
Unfortunately, we're running it out of necessity.
The offense has been noticeably better with both guys playing. Roll with one guy and the results will be predictably disastrous.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:35 am to OBUDan
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The offense has been noticeably better with both guys playing. Roll with one guy and the results will be predictably disastrous.
So we shouldn't even give it a shot? Lets just concede to a terrible offense
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:40 am to josh336
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So we shouldn't even give it a shot? Lets just concede to a terrible offense
Give what a shot?
Coaches watch these guys practice every day. Unless you're in the camp that just thinks you are a lot smarter than the coaching staff (95% of people here), then it's pretty reasonable to assume they have an idea of what each player offers them. I'm not saying we should never question their decision making, but if Lee was truly so much of a better option, and gave this team a 110% better chance to win, he would be the unquestioned starter.
But that hasn't happened. His performances to date were inflated by opponents hardly being able to prepare for him.
People can say all they want about "Lee threw 14 passes out of 19 plays so the defense knew it was coming!" Go back and watch the game again. Count how many actual good throws Lee made. I think it was 2. And I'm talking bubble screens and all. He was horrible from the get go Saturday. When you throw a bubble screen behind a guy and he has to spin around to get it, the play is dead.
Lee gives us something on offense. So does Jefferson. But neither one gives us enough by themselves to be a full-time starter.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:43 am to OBUDan
Just let Lee have 1 game as the starter. We've seen what Jefferson can do for well over a year as the starter and it doesn't lead to a decent offense. Put Lee in....whats the worst that will happen, we could struggle, he could throw some picks, don't worry, JJ already does that enough. There is a small chance he could get comfortable and open up the offense. Lets not forget he played the 2nd half with a sprained wrist. Give him all the 1st team reps this week. Get someone to work with him on stepping up in the pocket when hes about to release.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:44 am to josh336
i agree that we have no quarterback but the sad part is that these guys were some of the most highly rated HS Qbs. The Coachs bear some responsibility in not bringing these guys around. Les Miles told us before the season started that we had a team leader in JJ that he had shown significant improvement in skill and game management. That simply is not true. Auburn may have a better team. Significantly better than last year but not better overall talent. I believe that is why so many are upset over this loss.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:46 am to ulmtiger
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The Coachs bear some responsibility in not bringing these guys around
No, I'd say they bear just about all of it
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