re: O did unforgivable things to our roster

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You sound like you agree with me but don’t like it

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Right.

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It is what it is and this is how it is.

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Obviously.

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Either adapt with the times or become irrelevant.

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It is nearing the point where the only differences between colleges will be their names and the colors of their uniforms. The athletes are, or are quickly becoming professional athletes not amateur student athletes. Perhaps only the service academies will remain relatively unaffected. You will ultimately be watching (are now to a large extent) professional sports teams masquerading as college teams. It’s the nationalization and homogenization of college sports and it’s rapidly becoming irrelevant to a lot of people.

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You can go from zero to heroes in 1 season

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I mean they went from a .500 team to winning the west in a year.

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Kelly's First three years at ND:

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Look up BK record on year 7 at ND

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This is not going to be a short road. One that likely takes 1-2 MORE years just to get our defensive talent back to par with the rest of the SEC.

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I think most people recognize that most of our issues need to be addressed on the recruiting trail, but there is some cause for concern that it's not happening.

We knew DB was a concern that needed to be addressed last season and we whiffed on a few DBs in last year's class.

Looking ahead, we are currently the 10th ranked class for 2024 and 7th ranked for 2025. That's not horrible, but it's also not really making up ground against the competition.

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O did unforgivable things to our roster

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While not solely to blame (COVID transfer rules, the new era of semi-professional college football, etc.), your point is certainly valid.

Brian Kelly has been the coach for almost 2 years. Even missing spots on the roster are increasingly his responsibility.

Defensively, this team is barely on FCS level or maybe equivalent to a poor non-P5 defense. It is a shame, because merely average defense would have the team competitive for post-season, or at least another Top 10/12 run (at minimum, which is what this offense should guarantee).

Frustratingly, there are very occasional flashes from the defense (3Q against Ole Miss), but it just isn't enough to keep this team from sliding to very disappointing 7-5 with 8-4 being best case for the regular season.

I felt bad about the team last year after the opener, but there was still fight in that team. There is no fight in this defense ... at all. That was obvious in the FSU game.

Les's first three years were arguably better. Jus' sayin'.

can you name the HC at Cincy before Kelly without googling it?

Quit making excuses for Kelly. This is not on O.