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re: Nussmeier is a poor downfield passer

Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:45 pm to
Lester Earl and I said this last year but yall blamed the WRs lol
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Nussmeier is a poor downfield passerby DBGFacts are facts. In 2024, he had the most inaccurate passes of 20+ yards in the SEC. He had the the 6th worst uncatchable pass %. He had the 7th worst completion %.


So then why did the so-called “experts“ in college football rank him as the number one preseason Heisman Trophy front runner and first round pick in the NFL draft.?

This narrative makes no sense at all. If he was that bad, he shouldn’t have been all hyped up preseason. Personally, I didn’t see much out of him last year that I was impressed with other than a few good passes here and there. So I don’t know where all the hype came from.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13616 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:57 pm to
I got flamed to shite for saying this last season. I was a little bit baffled at all the hype he received this season. Nuss can have great moments but he’s average just go look at his performances vs A&M, Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss until the 4th quarter in 2024. That’s who he is. We were all hoping for a large leap, but I’m afraid he has reached his ceiling.

All that said he is still good enough to win this team a championship. We just need to block and run the damn ball.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:58 pm to
Is madking in here yet blaming everyone else but nuss?
I trust his opinion since he was the one who melted his face off when Jayden came back for year 2
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:06 pm to
I’m sure he’s somewhere around here lying & being disingenuous
Posted by TigahTX
Member since Apr 2022
2483 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:32 pm to
Nuss, Arch Manning, Klubnik, Lagway, and Sellers all got crazy preseason hype bud. Coincidentally they’ve all been fairly terrible this season. It’s just hype
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32394 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:45 pm to
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So far in 2025, he’s 1/9 for 23 yards and 1 INT. 5 inaccurate passes.


For our purposes, he should get credit for that dime he dropped in the basket to Brown vs Clemson. And that’s the frustrating thing with Nuss- we’ve seen him make some beautiful deep throws. He had a couple vs UGA in the 23 SECCG. The ones to Hilton in the 23 and 24 Bowl Games and vs OU. And again, the one we saw to Brown. He CAN do it, especially with the WR speed we have. He’s just not very consistent with it.

But for this offense to work- HE HAS TO AT LEAST ATTEMPT SOME. Every game. It has to happen.

What we did last night just doesn’t work. It didn’t work when Daniels was here in 22 and wouldn’t throw downfield. It didn’t work last year until Hilton was fully back. Defenses play up and can easily both crowd intermediate routes and also have everyone available to play the run. We are tying a hand behind our backs playing without any schemed up deep shots to back the Safeties up.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3520 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:46 pm to
He needs to set up in the pocket, but the oline is so bad at blocking that he ends up running around, throwing short, and sidearm alot. The receivers don't improvise and break off routes enough to get open... they don't create space like many.of our past receivers did.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32394 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:47 pm to
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We were all hoping for a large leap, but I’m afraid he has reached his ceiling.


He could absolutely be more effective if the offense was called better. Sloan doesn’t play to his strengths and often seems to play right into his weaknesses.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32394 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 1:53 pm to
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they don't create space like many.of our past receivers did.


Anderson, Brown and Thomas have no issues creating space in man. Both they and Nuss sometimes struggle vs zone. One of the backs missed sitting up in zone coverage last night that ended in a busted throw. And there have been times when the WRs have needed to break routes to sit in space and haven’t.

Sometimes it’s the QB’s job to find the windows to throw on crossers and slants. Nuss had a couple of good zone window throws vs Clemson, but has struggled more to find them the last two weeks. Teams are going to keep dropping and using that against him until he can figure that out. And it’s a double whammy if a defense can live in zone because everyone is facing the LOS and can immediately attack downhill on run plays.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94573 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Facts are facts.


Nope. It's bullshite and childish to say things like this.

quote:

The staff is doing that Nuss does best and avoiding what he doesn’t do well.


Perhaps some of the coaching choices do betray that they at least feel handcuffed by some of Nuss' revealed weaknesses.

But, to say he is a poor downfield passer is silly bullshite.

He is, without question, a very inconsistent and streaky quarterback. And how does one gameplan around that when one also cannot run the ball? (ETA: Sorry Coach Kelly, when you cannot run the ball consistently, get hard hardage, but can, occasionally break open a big run or two during a game to make the stats not look quite as atrocious as reality feels.)

That is the conundrum we face. We have to rely on the QB. When he is hot, the team is hot. When he is cold, there is no remedy for it. I mean, we could bench him and try another QB, but that opens up an entirely different can of worms.

#Itiswhatitis
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:15 pm to
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thought he turned a corner last season

I was wrong as usual
they talk about him like the 2nd coming during the offseason like their some hidden parallel season nobody new about where he passed for 6 thousand yards and had a passer rating above 90.

He is the same package as last yr. He'll have a great game this year once or twice. Hopefully its the right one's.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287730 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:22 pm to
Doesn’t change the fact that Nuss had a better year 1 than two Heisman Trophy winners
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
9606 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:23 pm to
He’s also just terrible at finding the open receivers down field. I just don’t think he has it upstairs.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287730 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:24 pm to
Nuss was our highest graded player on offense last season.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:33 pm to
He wont win waterboy of the year in jack shite this year. The way he has played this year was the same as last year. Those two guys had "meaning" in most all of our wins when they played. Name 1 game where Nuss made you feel like it was on him to win it dating back to last year.

Ole Miss 24'....thats it. Say what you want about padding stats against scrubs. I'll take those guys in year 1 before I take nuss

The point is 9 and 5 never hurt us in games, they help lead their offenses. Nuss is killing this offense and its getting worse.

This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:39 pm to
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he has it upstairs.
this and it glaring.

Hope he gets better, this year can be special.

Pulling an

aTm

And now pulling a

Florida

With those totally stupid ints is all I need to see.


We could start the freshman Hurley at this rate, given the D we got and get the same or better output than we getting now.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 2:41 pm
Posted by ShockG082
Member since Sep 2021
773 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 2:52 pm to
Lol
Watch the routes. The rcvr is pre determined. All the other rcvrs are going thru the motions. That's why when the primary is covered he can't find any secondary to open. Anderson is running backyard routes to get open. It is usually luck when Nuss finds him open.
I wouldn't be defending our passing game if I were you.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6108 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 3:03 pm to
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But, to say he is a poor downfield passer is silly bullshite

It’s your opinion vs a large sample size of data.
Gonna side with the stats here.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6108 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 3:05 pm to
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He needs to set up in the pocket, but the oline is so bad at blocking that he ends up running around, throwing short, and sidearm alot. The receivers don't improvise and break off routes enough to get open... they don't create space like many.of our past receivers did.

Nope. Pass pro is fine as usual. Run blocking is the crime against humanity.

Receivers are fine. Nuss’ issues are pocket presence of a lizard / rarely makes the right choice in the zone running options & has downfield accuracy issues, esp on vertical sideline routes.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 3:07 pm
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