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re: Nuss’ Reads
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:11 pm to thatsnotmydog
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:11 pm to thatsnotmydog
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Miss and Daniel’s each had 3 ints this year but Daniel’s had 371 attempts to nuss’s 69.
There is an old saying in the data analysis game... "Figures lie and Liars figure." I am not calling you a liar but just saying you can make numbers say anything you want them to.
Nuss threw 2 picks against Southern in garbage time with the 3rd stringers in the game and no risk to the win. Playing yardball essentially.
Now lets look at a closer to apples to apples comparison. JD and Nuss each played one half against the top defense in the country. Each threw one pick in about the same number of attempts. JD made an errant throw that resulted in a deflection INT deep in our territory for a quick 6 for UGA. Nuss threw an ill advised pass deep to the EZ with a safety on the near hash. Result was a touchback and we got the ball back. Take in mind that Nuss was down 25 pts and in a must throw situation.
You can talk about the strip sack if you want but Nuss was in a must throw situation and did not take care of the ball. JD the previous week had a fumbled handoff that resulted in a scoop and score at aTm that busted our nutts.
So in a similar experience Nuss one pick, JD one pick.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 8:14 pm
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:12 pm to Zippydog
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Not good enough for a college Natty . Another Jameis Winston
Anybody want to tell him??
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:17 pm to GetmorewithLes
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JD made an errant throw that resulted in a deflection INT deep in our territory for a quick 6 for UGA.
So you’re saying that interception by Daniels was simply an errant throw?? Errant throws don’t usually hit your guys hands first. Bad luck can actually happen and that clearly was the textbook example of bad luck. Try again.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:19 pm to crewdepoo
So you want to discredit him because he was down when he came in...lol...got it
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:19 pm to Mako_fin
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is it me or has anyone else noticed Nuss seems like a 1 read only guy thus far in his career?
Go back and look at his first pass in the 2nd half against Georgia.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:20 pm to LSUgrad88
Jesus Christ. It was both a bad throw and unfortunate luck. Good god.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:22 pm to Raz
You mean when Boutte stopped in the route? It's even been discussed and it made nuss look bad. My god y'all stop at nothing
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:17 pm to GetmorewithLes
That’s pretty spot on. Plus I’m the Southern game Nuss was trying to make plays and impress coaches in one of his few moments of action on the year.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:29 pm to Mako_fin
You’re fricking retarded if you think Nuss is a one read QB
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:29 pm to crewdepoo
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we saw a half game of him play while down 4 scores. I doubt we run air raid in a typical offense
Hey you smug butthole, choke on this.
JD 16/24 208 yards
GN 15/27 294 yards
So was it air raid the first half as well then?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:56 pm to Mako_fin
This entire thread is missing the elephant in the room. With an average, at best, offensive line, neither quarterback had time consistently for 20+ yard pass plays to develop and read progression to be complete. JD avoids the problem with his feet until you run into a defense that schemes to stop his run game. Nussmeier, on an admittedly insufficient sample size, makes ill advised throws. Fix the protection, and give Nuss or Howard a chance to develop. I fear JD has pretty much reached his ceiling, but without him we don't win 8 games and we certainly don't get to Atlanta.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:19 pm to thatsnotmydog
Where did you learn math?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:24 pm to p226
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Am I correct in this observation?
No -- in the SECCG against Georgia, no.
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Hot Carl: Yes
No, not in the SECCG against Georgia
That is exactly why he threw that pick, he didn't look off the safety and locked on Boutte. Two more seconds looking left and that safety isn't in place to make the interception. He also had another couple of near ints but almost doesn't count for 1st downs, TDs, or picks.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:37 pm to Mako_fin
Experience will solve the turnover problem, he needs to play, when you play a lot it helps you to overcome a lot of mistakes that you make early on. But you just can't keep playing this kid sparingly like this because he'll never get any better. He needs to start a whole game from beginning to end.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:45 pm to iBack8569
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When they went against real competition they got smothered because Daniels wouldn't throw the ball. He’s not the QB to win a championship.
Uh. He was moving the ball very well against Georgia.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:48 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Take in mind that Nuss was down 25 pts and in a must throw situation.
Which also means the defense was not playing nearly as aggressively.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:55 pm to des4271
At least Nuss made a throw and not a sack. His only problem I see is over throwing the receivers. Most incompletions were over throws and they can lead to disaster. But can be coached and practiced out to a minimum.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:57 pm to tucoco
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Experience will solve the turnover problem,
You don’t know this for sure.
It’s possible but it’s also just as possible that it won’t. The QB position is hard to evaluate and any given year there might be what 3 or 4 that are true NFL type QBs (yes more are technically drafted but most of them end up on practice squads. Very few ever see meaningful reps in NFL games). The good thing about it is, you can win in college without an NFL QB. Georgia is probably going to do it twice in a row. Of course you’d rather have that NFL QB but the odds are just not great that you will. Most college QBs are average at best and never get much better throughout their career.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:03 pm to Menatiger
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At least Nuss made a throw and not a sack.
You do realize JD was only sacked 2 more times in the Georgia game than Nuss right? And Nuss ended with -13 yards rushing while JD ended with just -1 and he was injured. I’m certainly not saying every game was great for JD. It wasn’t. He looked Baaaaad against Arkansas and honestly, he’s probably not going to win a national championship if he comes back next year. But odds are, neither will Nuss. Both could. It’s possible. Just not likely.
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