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re: Now that the regular season is over: A comparison of Harris and Etling

Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:12 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:12 am to
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ok...but it wasn't a split



You realize that makes it worse since Harris got benched for such abysmal play and we scored TDs on our next 3 possessions after he went out, right?

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he SEC was also much better last year


You're right, Harris is obviously the superior QB.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to
I don't think this board is giving enough weight to the difference in OCs. Harris had to play under a joke of an offensive philosoph, that only threw in guaranteed passing situations. That is very hard to do. Meanwhile, Etling had a scheme that used the shite out of TEs finally, and threw on 1st/2nd down.

Etling has looked better, but I sure would have liked to have seen Harris with the playcalling Ensminger has done. I think he'd be a lot more comfortable and in rhythm.
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to
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2015 3rd down conversion % 40%

2016 42%


Thanks for the info Brandon. Does that exclude Harris's snaps from the 1st 2 games? it may be more like 45-47% otherwise....which is a BIG difference.
Posted by IvanCCCP
U.S.A.
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to
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The only 2 people Harris threw to were Malachi and dural.


To be fair to Harris he tried to complete throws to LF7 out of the backfield but bc the screen pass isn't a Hail Mary pass, he couldn't complete them.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to
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2016 42%


Did you remove Harris's stats out?
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:13 am to
Here he is again I know what you are trying to imply.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:14 am to
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Harris
Is not qualified to be QB at LSU.
Posted by bayouself74
Red Stick
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:14 am to
BH has all the tools but he's just not a gamer. I think Etling, who is decidedly less talented, showed up for every game and played within himself where Harris did not. DE definitely had a better pocket presence. He was very good at going through his progressions, not just keying on the first or second options. DE threw the ball away instead of forcing it for an interception or taking a drive killing sack. When he was flushed, his efforts to pick up yards cannot be denied. DE just played harder and wanted it more. Those intangibles make a difference and make the players around you better. That effort and interception in Green Bay after all the preseason hype will always haunt me when I think about BH.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 10:18 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:15 am to
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More points


Brandon harris

30pts/game


Danny etling

30pts/game



You honestly cant make this shite up
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:15 am to
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a 54% completion percentage v/s a 60% is a huge difference

If the new OC can get that up to 65%...
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:15 am to
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Why blow it up to start a guy with ZERO college experience?


Its not blowing anything up. If a QB stands out in spring and is head and shoulders above the rest you start him. 18 or 24.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:16 am to
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LNCHBOX


Laugh all you want, but its true.

Etling is only slightly better than Harris.

Hopefully LSU will have a new QB in 2017.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:18 am to
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Thanks for the info Brandon. Does that exclude Harris's snaps from the 1st 2 games? it may be more like 45-47% otherwise....which is a BIG difference.
Harris was 2/11 for I believe. I imagine over a season we would go from 42-43%

Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:18 am to
Transplant Etling's brain and heart into Harris' body and we have the perfect QB.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:19 am to
Lol

How quickly people forget about Jarrett lee. He started as a true freshmen and he was fricking awful. Literally set records with his awfulness. He actually had some talent when he came here but was in way over his head
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:19 am to
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You realize that makes it worse since Harris got benched for such abysmal play and we scored TDs on our next 3 possessions after he went out, right?



I realize Harris got benched that game, yes

quote:

You're right, Harris is obviously the superior QB.


Harris does some things better

Etling does other things better

neither are great

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:19 am to
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Transplant Etling's brain
His brain? His td/int ratio is nearly identical.

Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10395 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:19 am to
Brandon Harris after the Bama game last year

86/173 (49.7%) ---- 1199 yards ---- 6.9 yds/attempt --- 5 tds --- 8 int --- .625 td/int ratio

2-4 as a starter (frick giving him a win for Jack St)

Danny Etling

60% ---- 1906 yards ----- 7.9 yds/attempt ---- 9 tds----- 4 int ----- 2.25td/1 int ratio ----- 135 rating

6-3 as a starter
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:20 am to
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Harris does one thing better


FIFY

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neither are great
No one said eiother were great.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:20 am to
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Harris does some things better

Etling does other things better

neither are great
Yep. No idea why this board wont admit that

Nearly identical stats

While having identical win pct

Identcial pts/game

And, Etling had the joy of playing in our new improved offense, yet they want to say Etling is light years ahead.
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