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re: Nola is best LSU pitcher ever at this point
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:26 am to BRTIIGER58
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:26 am to BRTIIGER58
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I would put Nola above even Ben McDonald right now
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Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:29 am to BRTIIGER58
Two different eras of baseball so comparing is extremely difficult regardless of skill sets.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:39 am to MrJimBeam
At this point, yes, but things can change.
Pro prospects has nothing to do with a pitchers greatness at LSU
Pro prospects has nothing to do with a pitchers greatness at LSU
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:44 am to BRTIIGER58
The bats have changed so much that comparisons between hitters and pitchers from twenty years ago and today is pointless.
Its doubtful Brandon Larson could hit 40 home runs in 2014 and just as doubtful Aaron Nola could have posted an 0.47 era in 1996.
That said, both were/are great baseball players at LSU.
Its doubtful Brandon Larson could hit 40 home runs in 2014 and just as doubtful Aaron Nola could have posted an 0.47 era in 1996.
That said, both were/are great baseball players at LSU.
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:55 am to Tiger Ugly
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True, makes it a difficult comparison.
The fairest way to try to make one is to compare their numbers against their peers.
How does each rank in their era?
For example, Babe Ruth's home run numbers were marginalized somewhat by the steroid era, but when you consider how far and above his numbers were above his peers it shows how dominant he was.
Were Ben's numbers as far and above those of his peers then as it seems to me Nola's are now. I can't answer that.
This.
A great pitcher back in Ben's day posted an ERA between 3.50-4.00...Ben's was around 3.50 when he won the Golden Spikes.
A great pitcher the last few years posts an ERA between 1.50-2.00.
Moral of the story...it's splitting hairs right now. If Nola ends up with an ERA around 1.00 at the end of this season though, that's a pretty damn strong argument.
ETA: This is for starting pitchers. Relievers/closers are a different story
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/5/14 at 12:07 pm to BRTIIGER58
It's ibvious to anyone who knows what it
takes to be dominant. Best control of three pitches to ever wear the uniform
takes to be dominant. Best control of three pitches to ever wear the uniform
Posted on 4/5/14 at 12:16 pm to wilfont
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Its doubtful Brandon Larson could hit 40 home runs in 2014 and just as doubtful Aaron Nola could have posted an 0.47 era in 1996.
Mcdonald didnt pitch against the same bats Larson used. Or in a "steroid" era.
This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 4/5/14 at 1:26 pm to BRTIIGER58
"Lloyd had the greatest single year of any LSU pitcher ever," said Bertman, who joins Peever in the 2011 LSU Athletic Hall of Fame induction class. "14-0 just isn't enough to describe how dominant he was."
Lloyd Peever's 1992 campaign was one of the best individual seasons ever in college baseball, let alone LSU history.
That year, Peever's only season at LSU, was so great it warranted his induction into the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame on Sept. 9.
He was named Collegiate Baseball Player of the Year, elected first-team all-American by both the American Baseball Coaches Association and Baseball America magazine, voted first-team all-SEC, selected for the SEC all-tournament team and was named National Player of the Week two times. He went 14-0 with an earned run average of 1.92. He also started the season with 39 straight innings without a walk.
I was a student at LSU during this time. This guy was phenomenal that year. Granted, he was only at LSU one year but when talking about the GOAT, he must be in the conversation.
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Lloyd Peever's 1992 campaign was one of the best individual seasons ever in college baseball, let alone LSU history.
That year, Peever's only season at LSU, was so great it warranted his induction into the LSU Athletic Hall of Fame on Sept. 9.
He was named Collegiate Baseball Player of the Year, elected first-team all-American by both the American Baseball Coaches Association and Baseball America magazine, voted first-team all-SEC, selected for the SEC all-tournament team and was named National Player of the Week two times. He went 14-0 with an earned run average of 1.92. He also started the season with 39 straight innings without a walk.
I was a student at LSU during this time. This guy was phenomenal that year. Granted, he was only at LSU one year but when talking about the GOAT, he must be in the conversation.
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This post was edited on 4/5/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 4/5/14 at 1:47 pm to LSUButt
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If McDonald played now he would be twice as dominant
No breaking pitch.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 3:32 pm to BRTIIGER58
He has pitched 57 innings and has given up 3 runs. That is just unreal to say even in the dead bat era. What's even crazier to say is that he has a loss and a no decision. Remember coming into the year he wasn't even considered the best pitcher in the country. Rodon was considered better, So was beede. Beede didn't even make it out the 3rd inning against ms state. To me Nola is the best pitcher in the country and it isn't even close. In lsu history if he's not the best he's at least top 3.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 3:34 pm to BRTIIGER58
Yes he is.
Posted on 4/5/14 at 5:47 pm to Godfather1
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No breaking pitch.
Wrong.
Great curveball and a splitfinger that was damn near uncatchable.
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