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Nobody is complaining about losing to Alabama
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:09 pm
I'm tired of hearing this. It's not the case.
They were a 14.5 point favorite in TS. We were supposed to lose.
What is being complained about is getting shutout in this game for the 2nd time in 3 years.
What is being complained about is getting shutout the only 2 times Ensminger has bee the OC vs Alabama.
What is being complained about is having an Offense thanks ranks near the bottom of nearly every pertinent offensive statistic category.
What is being complained about is that the coaching staff felt it more important to kick a field goal down 22 points late in the game. The only purpose this would serve is to prevent a shutout and thus lessen the backlash on the coaching. It effecvely signaled to the players that the coaches were giving up on them.
What's being complained about is that a very successful coach was run out of town for not being able to mount an offense in "this game*.
What is being complained about is having less than 80 yards of offense deep into the 4th quarter.
What is being complained about is having a conservative offensive gameplan rather than being aggressive.
What is being be complained about is not making adjustments to the offensive gameplan as the game progressed.
What is being complained about was going into this game the narrative was that Alabama has played a bunch of nobodies. All of the nobodies moved the ball more effectively than LSU.
There are many other complaints and most of them stem from losing this game in the fashion in which it was lost. Not necessarily that it was lost. We were expected to lose.
They were a 14.5 point favorite in TS. We were supposed to lose.
What is being complained about is getting shutout in this game for the 2nd time in 3 years.
What is being complained about is getting shutout the only 2 times Ensminger has bee the OC vs Alabama.
What is being complained about is having an Offense thanks ranks near the bottom of nearly every pertinent offensive statistic category.
What is being complained about is that the coaching staff felt it more important to kick a field goal down 22 points late in the game. The only purpose this would serve is to prevent a shutout and thus lessen the backlash on the coaching. It effecvely signaled to the players that the coaches were giving up on them.
What's being complained about is that a very successful coach was run out of town for not being able to mount an offense in "this game*.
What is being complained about is having less than 80 yards of offense deep into the 4th quarter.
What is being complained about is having a conservative offensive gameplan rather than being aggressive.
What is being be complained about is not making adjustments to the offensive gameplan as the game progressed.
What is being complained about was going into this game the narrative was that Alabama has played a bunch of nobodies. All of the nobodies moved the ball more effectively than LSU.
There are many other complaints and most of them stem from losing this game in the fashion in which it was lost. Not necessarily that it was lost. We were expected to lose.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 12:11 pm
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:11 pm to Tiger Vision
Well said. I completely agree. You're "supposed" to lose...so why not let it all hang out instead of playing scared and conservative.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:12 pm to Tiger Vision
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Nobody is complaining about losing to Alabama
You're wrong.
before the game there were plenty of people on this board who said losing by the spread was unacceptable
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:13 pm to Tiger Vision
It's about LSU not doing what it needs to do to be successful against Alabama. You can't field an 80+ ranked offense every year, then complain that you can't beat Bama like the universe is stacked against you.
Stop acting like LSU is doing everything it possibly can to beat them. We aren't and the results reflect that.
Stop acting like LSU is doing everything it possibly can to beat them. We aren't and the results reflect that.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:13 pm to Tiger Vision
What is being complained about is scheme.
I agree we need a legit OC - no argument there, but this past Saturday was not an indication of bad scheme, it was an indication of terrible OL play/recruiting.
The season as a whole is an indication that Coach E isn't giving us what we need. 104th offense at week 10 is unacceptable with the talent we have on offense. Granted, we've played 6 top 25 defenses, but with our talent, we should be a top 50 offense at least.
I agree we need a legit OC - no argument there, but this past Saturday was not an indication of bad scheme, it was an indication of terrible OL play/recruiting.
The season as a whole is an indication that Coach E isn't giving us what we need. 104th offense at week 10 is unacceptable with the talent we have on offense. Granted, we've played 6 top 25 defenses, but with our talent, we should be a top 50 offense at least.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:13 pm to Tiger Vision
People getting mad about people just now pointing out the offensive issues this year. Why? You should be happy that we are realizing these issues now. So let's fix it.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:14 pm to Tiger Vision
quote:
What is being complained about is having less than 80 yards of offense deep into the 4th quarter.
What is being complained about is having a conservative offensive gameplan rather than being aggressive.
What is being be complained about is not making adjustments to the offensive gameplan as the game progressed.
reminds me of 1-9-12
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:15 pm to Tiger Vision
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What is being complained about is getting shutout the only 2 times Ensminger has bee the OC vs Alabama.
2 games as OC:
321 yards
0 points
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What is being complained about is having an Offense thanks ranks near the bottom of nearly every pertinent offensive statistic category.
When SE took over in 2016, he opened up the offense and had success! People loved him, he set records!
But when you break it down all he did was call a handful more plays and the biggest change was run more shotgun. This forced teams to pull the reigns back and play more honest. Most of the teams being ranked 90th or worse in Total D, but hey, he broke records and look at those formations
Now there is a ton of tape and teams know this is the same old song and dance! Same passing tree (no creativity, just play action deep down sidelines), same rushing attack, will not attack middle of the field and terrible in game adjustments! This is Miles offense ran out of shotgun, nothing more than a few added wrinkles.
SE/CEO took a shite sandwich and put it on a poboy...it's still shite.
Every one wants to focus on the bama game, but this offense is bad and every statistical category shows that.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:15 pm to Tiger Vision
Yeah, if we lost 31-27 in a hard fought game, I would not be complaining.
We looked lost on offense after 2 weeks to prepare in the most watched game of the year. And this is not Saban's best defense, quite the opposite.
Unacceptable.
We looked lost on offense after 2 weeks to prepare in the most watched game of the year. And this is not Saban's best defense, quite the opposite.
Unacceptable.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:15 pm to Tiger Vision
We will see how Orgeron adjusts. He will either stick with E or try and find a real OC. I love E and his contribution to this university. But we need an Offense that can compliment our defense.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:15 pm to Tiger Vision
Post of the day. Every sentence spot on.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:16 pm to TchPowDog
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but this past Saturday was not an indication of bad scheme, it was an indication of terrible OL play/recruiting.
Wrong.
You can scheme around their strengths and our weaknesses. Happens all the time.
fricking Arkansas did it. A&M did it. This Bama defense isn't invincible.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:16 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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He will either stick with E or try and find a real OC. I love E and his contribution to this university
We already know the answer. He got rid of Canada to make E full time OC after E threw up his first goose egg in '16.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:17 pm to LSUfan4444
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before the game there were plenty of people on this board who said losing by the spread was unacceptable
Yet we didn’t even get close to the spread.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:17 pm to LSUfan4444
He is not wrong. Had we lost 14 and actually had an offensive output worthy of even being mentioned, there wouldn’t be nearly as much backlash.
The entire point is that E and O were shut the frick out yet again by bama. Folks are sick and tired of having a putrid offense. That’s reasonable.
The entire point is that E and O were shut the frick out yet again by bama. Folks are sick and tired of having a putrid offense. That’s reasonable.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:18 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:LSU lost by 14 last year and the feeling was that the gap was closing.
You're wrong.
before the game there were plenty of people on this board who said losing by the spread was unacceptable
We just got shutout at home for the 2nd time with the same OC. If this would have happened to Les people would be ready to crucify him.
Losing is one thing, getting embarrassed is another.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:19 pm to Tiger Vision
I agree with much of what you say, but the idea that we should have adjusted the gameplan is laughable. Adjusted to what? The gameplan was throw quick-hitters, because we won't be able to run and we won't have time for slow developing plays. BTW, this is the gamepan ranters have been screaming for.
Well, the quick-hitters didn't work consistently enough, and we were right about the lack of time and the inability to run. Now, Coach Vision, how should we have adjusted?
Well, the quick-hitters didn't work consistently enough, and we were right about the lack of time and the inability to run. Now, Coach Vision, how should we have adjusted?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:19 pm to TchPowDog
Plenty of teams can scheme there way around offensive line issues. Our OL was a huge problem, but it’s not the entire reason we were blanked. It’s a combo of the OL, the OC calling the plays, and the scheme.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:19 pm to cas4t
People are complaining about losing...bottom line. Sure, the shutout is causing louder and more complaints but to say Nobody is complaining about losing to bama is absurd.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:20 pm to TchPowDog
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, but this past Saturday was not an indication of bad scheme, it was an indication of terrible OL play/recruiting
Why do so many think it is one or the other?
Why do so many find it so hard to acknowledge that it is the scheme combined with subpar (relative to Bama) talent?
The 2 are not mutually exclusive.
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