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re: NLRB regional says college football players can form union
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:48 pm to prplngldtigr
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:48 pm to prplngldtigr
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You think playing football in college is work?
absolutely. My roommate played linebacker for LSU, and it is easily a job.
Morning meetings and workouts, then class, then more meetings, then practice, then mandatory tutoring at the Cox center. That is a 6am-11pm day a lot of the time.
They do set them up with nice summer jobs though.
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Road trips are a blast for teams. Not always for work.
So road trips are always a blast for players? Interesting.
And the schools don't cover all the medical expenses
But let's be honest, good players are already getting paid
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 6:54 pm
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:54 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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College football is NOT a job, it IS an internship. You learn your craft with little in the way of compensation, but have the opportunity to be graded by people you will eventually get paid by if you make the cut.
Most internships at a company worth a damn pay you an hourly salary equal to what you would make in your first year
Also, comparing it to an internship is laughable with the kinds of profits that are being made
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:56 pm to TigerBait1127
We'll agree to disagree.
Time consumption does not equal work necessarily.
College athletics can be demanding physically and mentally, but athletes play because they have the gifts and most love it for reasons that will always be independent from a dollar amount.
Time consumption does not equal work necessarily.
College athletics can be demanding physically and mentally, but athletes play because they have the gifts and most love it for reasons that will always be independent from a dollar amount.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:56 pm to TigerBait1127
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Most internships at a company worth a damn pay you an hourly salary equal to what you would make in your first year
depends on what field you're in
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:59 pm to TigerBait1127
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Also, comparing it to an internship is laughable with the kinds of profits that are being made
Who's making the profits?
Out of the hundreds (maybe thousands) only 20 or so athletic programs make money.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:00 pm to LSU GrandDad
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what we are getting is illegal wetbacks that are semi skilled and put our American boys out of work. a union run the right way provides training and apprenticeship and a better quality worker
Wow, just wow. There is plenty high of a demand for low-skilled labor jobs that our market has outgrown, but our ridiculous immigration policies won't allow for many to work and the ones that do are hard workers.
Sorry you got shitty contractors to build your house? Plenty of contractors do a great job building houses. It's called the free market. Go bitch and make it known to people this company sucks and they'll fix the issue. Don't blame the uneducated immigrants.
Also, we have a much better shot at getting hard work for these low-skill jobs from immigrants than our current lazy workforce.
Pretty incredible how you turned the downturn of unions to your racist vendetta towards Mexicans because you went cheap and contracted a non-credible company. I have officially seen it all on here.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:01 pm to prplngldtigr
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College athletics can be demanding physically and mentally, but athletes play because they have the gifts and most love it for reasons that will always be independent from a dollar amount.
If there is to be some compensation structure beyond what they already receive, I'd like to see it come from endorsements or merchandising rather than pay for play.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:04 pm to TigerBait1127
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Also, comparing it to an internship is laughable with the kinds of profits that are being made
1. only a handful of ADs profit
2. you start paying players, you're creating a disservice to players because most athletic departments wouldn't be able to afford it and will, in effect, stop competing
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:06 pm to lsufball19
You keep saying that. More than a handful of football teams turn a profit
Slippery slope argument.
Conferences can negotiate CBA's with players for fair compensation.
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ou start paying players, you're creating a disservice to players because most athletic departments wouldn't be able to afford it and will, in effect, stop competing
Slippery slope argument.
Conferences can negotiate CBA's with players for fair compensation.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:07 pm to lsufball19
Not to mention if you pay football players , you pay all collegiate athletes in all sports.
They put in the time and effort too. Just work in a less lucrative department for the same company, right?
100% true that only a few Athletic Departments finish out the red.
They put in the time and effort too. Just work in a less lucrative department for the same company, right?
100% true that only a few Athletic Departments finish out the red.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:12 pm to prplngldtigr
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100% true that only a few Athletic Departments finish out the red.
And it will end up being none or a handful breaking even while paying players $3.50 a week. Great idea!!
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:14 pm to TigerBait1127
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You keep saying that. More than a handful of football teams turn a profit
Only a handful of programs AD's make a profit. Most are in the hole.
Football programs help fund other programs. The other programs will also have to pay players. What will happen at the beginning is smaller schools will drop athletics, then we will have only a few programs. In the end, college athletics will disappear or go back to club level sports.
Again, only about 20 or so football programs are profitable right now.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Exactly. I understand these guys have a busy schedule, but their schooling is paid for in return and honestly paying student-athletes simply is not feasible and probably never will be.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That isn't necessarily true
You could pay based off the money brought in via an agreement with the union
Where does anything say every sport would get paid
You could pay based off the money brought in via an agreement with the union
Where does anything say every sport would get paid
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:20 pm to TigerBait1127
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That isn't necessarily true
You could pay based off the money brought in via an agreement with the union
Where does anything say every sport would get paid
Somewhere, every sport would demand to be paid, and the NCAA would come up with a structure to make it fair.
Schools lose money on football, not to mention athletics in general...right now. What the hell do you think will happen?
Football will go semi pro, colleges will drop football.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Again, only about 20 or so football programs are profitable right now.
That isn't what the article says
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Football will go semi pro, colleges will drop football.
Or some colleges will pay players while others don't. There is a difference in not being allowed to pay players and allowing players to negotiate
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:23 pm to TigerBait1127
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Or some colleges will pay players while others don't.
Will not work at all.
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There is a difference in not being allowed to pay players and allowing players to negotiate
With collective bargaining, there will be a pay structure.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
From what I heard this only applies to private universities not public ones.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:28 pm to TigerBait1127
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You keep saying that. More than a handful of football teams turn a profit
i provided evidence to back up that point as well. where's yours?
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Conferences can negotiate CBA's with players for fair compensation.
so basically the conferences with the money to do so. what about the non AQ conferences? they simply do not have the money to pay players. we're also talking about more than just football players and more than just mens sports
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:29 pm
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